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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#261 Postby GCANE » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:23 am

I forecast a shift in hardcore model stuff from 98L to 97L

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#262 Postby dantonlsu » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:28 am

Could get interesting here in the next week...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#263 Postby GCANE » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:35 am

Could take off very soon.
Picking up a moisture feed from the south and tracking into the anticyclone.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#264 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:39 am

GCANE wrote:Could take off very soon.
Picking up a moisture feed from the south and tracking into the anticyclone.

https://i.imgur.com/9lKxMuJ.png

https://i.imgur.com/z1k13uF.png


yeppers.. that general area has a decent swath of eastward moving low level clouds. HI res visible at the southern edge of the canopy shows the llc.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#265 Postby GCANE » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:49 am

Aric Dunn wrote:
GCANE wrote:Could take off very soon.
Picking up a moisture feed from the south and tracking into the anticyclone.

https://i.imgur.com/9lKxMuJ.png

https://i.imgur.com/z1k13uF.png


yeppers.. that general area has a decent swath of eastward moving low level clouds. HI res visible at the southern edge of the canopy shows the llc.


Looking like a couple towers going up and spewing out cirrus.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#266 Postby GCANE » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:08 am

Looks like there was a small swirl on Vis and then a tower popped over it.
Good symmetrical outflow from the tower - no shear.
T minus 10, 9, ....
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#267 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:17 am

GCANE wrote:I forecast a shift in hardcore model stuff from 98L to 97L

https://i.imgur.com/IZ0dYav.png


Looks like the HWRF is overdoing thing yet again. :roll: The Euro solution of a weak TS/TD in the Western Caribbean appears much more plausible looking the the structure of the system and environment ahead
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#268 Postby GCANE » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:31 am

Starting to push back some cirrus around it
..8, 7...

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#269 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:33 am

GCANE wrote:Starting to push back some cirrus around it
..8, 7...

https://i.imgur.com/wpzx6eG.png


new tower popping off where the estimated center would be under the SW side of the canopy..

one good solid burst is all it will need.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#270 Postby Extratropical94 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:35 am

2 hours ago

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#271 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:37 am

Extratropical94 wrote:2 hours ago

https://i.imgur.com/04UUoIC.jpg


yep..

there is a samll scale vort that has developed just under the edge of the canopy there. watching to see if more convection builds in that area.. could easily tighten things up.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#272 Postby chaser1 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:39 am

GCANE wrote:Looks like there was a small swirl on Vis and then a tower popped over it.
Good symmetrical outflow from the tower - no shear.
T minus 10, 9, ....


ehhhh, I'll give you the added feed from the south and the generally improved MLC but no joke, take a look at Barranquilla (N. Colombian coastline). This appears to be the most impressive LLC that I can plainly see, and that low isn't gonna couple with 97's MLC today. I think 48-60 hr.'s might be reasonable for a T.S. to develop but not before.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#273 Postby PTrackerLA » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:39 am

Watching closely in Louisiana. Looking likely we see at least 1 gulf storm in the next week.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#274 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:41 am

Also from a couple hours ago..

definitely a broad closed LLC down south of that convection.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#275 Postby Buck » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:41 am

Oh boy... I'm getting bad vibes from this one and its sibling.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#276 Postby GCANE » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:45 am

Here's our secondary vort.
A marriage made in the Carib.
Who can resist a naked swirl?

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#277 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:47 am

GCANE wrote:Here's our secondary vort.
A marriage made in the Carib.
Who can resist a naked swirl?

https://i.imgur.com/gmCN0CY.png


Well that is a semi permanent feature. It is there all year around..

but yeah there might be some interaction. and in the past it has assisted systems with increased vorticity.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#278 Postby 3090 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:27 am

stormlover2013 wrote:
3090 wrote:
GCANE wrote:Radar seems to indicate that the circulation is tightening up.
Vast majority of the Globals are now indicating a cane in the GoM with likely landfall in TX and some chance in LA.
Forecast as this gets into the W Carib is for the troposphere to be saturated.

https://i.imgur.com/oIDPfCh.png


Stronger = more east, Weaker = more west.


Not always the case


Straight from a pro-met. In case you were wondering. I only rely on pro-mets.

“Would be keeping a wary eye on the organizational trends with Invest 97L over the next 72 hours, as the organization over the next 3 days will influence it’s future track/strength down the road.

This morning, system is looking slightly better organized with more robust convection near the wave axis. Dry air appears less impactful.

The key...

A more organized tropical system within the next 72 hours would appear to have a more poleward/northerly track by Saturday-Sunday into the southern Gulf of Mexico, with a potential track towards the northern Gulf Coast. Steered by the decaying upper-level trough along the northern Gulf Coast.

A weaker system within the next 72 hours would appear to be steered further west/into the Yucatán Peninsula/Bay of Campeche. Weaker system, less likely to feel influence of the upper level trough.

Lots to watch. But, Invest 97L certainly has my attention, as it’s closer to home than Invest 98L...”
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#279 Postby Visioen » Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:42 am

Virtually no shear over this right now. Are we in the Caribbean?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#280 Postby Javlin » Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:47 am

gatorcane wrote:
GCANE wrote:I forecast a shift in hardcore model stuff from 98L to 97L

https://i.imgur.com/IZ0dYav.png


Looks like the HWRF is overdoing thing yet again. :roll: The Euro solution of a weak TS/TD in the Western Caribbean appears much more plausible looking the the structure of the system and environment ahead

I don't know the GOM has it's own special energy and that track fuels all the majors it's through the center.
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