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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2881 Postby FixySLN » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:04 pm

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Blinhart wrote:Just looked at all the ensembles, I couldn't see Louisiana in any of them

Which ensembles?


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^^ This exactly. Marco stopped feeding the ridge pushing Laura. Laura is doing wonky stuff down by Cuba. Cone shift. The ensembles from 2 hours ago are tentative at best.

An honest to god friendly reminder that there's a unique situation in the gulf that literally nobody has a 100% handle on. If Laura ended up hitting land with a billion Murder Hornets, I wouldn't blink an eye at this point. #2020
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2882 Postby Ken711 » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:11 pm

AerospaceEng wrote:
Blinhart wrote:Just looked at all the ensembles, I couldn't see Louisiana in any of them

Which ensembles?


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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2883 Postby Ken711 » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:12 pm

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2884 Postby catskillfire51 » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:15 pm

Icon is running and so far south of 18z and 12z
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2885 Postby Fancy1001 » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:18 pm

Ken711 wrote:
AerospaceEng wrote:
Blinhart wrote:Just looked at all the ensembles, I couldn't see Louisiana in any of them

Which ensembles?


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https://my.sfwmd.gov/sfwmd/common/images/weather/plots/storm_13_ens.gif

I think he meant through them, like all the models were covering Louisiana .
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2886 Postby catskillfire51 » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:20 pm

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Icon with a big shift southwest and stronger
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2887 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:22 pm

00z ICON west shift, western LA landfall, hour 72:
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Major hurricane on this run.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2888 Postby Beef Stew » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:22 pm

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Landfall slightly to the east of the TX/LA border around 72 hrs
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2889 Postby snoop9928 » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:24 pm

seems like these are starting to kick east or west of their last models and center on sw la
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2890 Postby Highteeld » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:24 pm

Much stronger ICON tonight. If I were a betting man, I'd say the ICON is pretty close to reality, maybe a tad conservative
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2891 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:27 pm

Highteeld wrote:Much stronger ICON tonight. If I were a betting man, I'd say the ICON is pretty close to reality, maybe a tad conservative

it’s a global model with lowish resolution, so you can subtract at least 10 mb from what it says.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2892 Postby Highteeld » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:28 pm

AxaltaRacing24 wrote:
Highteeld wrote:Much stronger ICON tonight. If I were a betting man, I'd say the ICON is pretty close to reality, maybe a tad conservative

it’s a global model with lowish resolution, so you can subtract at least 10 mb from what it says.

Agreed. a 950 mb landfall into south of Lake Charles seems reasonable to me
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2893 Postby Steve » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:30 pm

Blinhart wrote:Just looked at all the ensembles, I couldn't see Louisiana in any of them


lol. I had to click on the UKMET ensembles to realize you weren't saying you couldn't see any of them in Louisiana.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2894 Postby HouTXmetro » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:32 pm

NOLA was removed from the cone earlier today as it shifted West, now it's back in the cone and Houston is out of the cone. Yet we see some models going West and some going east. I need to decide if I will board this plane in the morning to help my mother prepare. Between Marco's forecast and Laura's, The NHC hasn't helped me decide one way or another with the flip flops. This is beyond frustrating.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2895 Postby Highteeld » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:34 pm

HouTXmetro wrote:NOLA was removed from the cone earlier today as it shifted West, now it's back in the cone and Houston is out of the cone. Yet we see some models going West and some going east. I need to decide if I will board this plane in the morning to help my mother prepare. Between Marco's forecast and Laura's, The NHC hasn't helped me decide one way or another with the flip flops. This is beyond frustrating.

Was talking about this in another thread, but it seems to me like the cone sizes are too small given poor model performance over the last couple of years, which leads to more of this ^
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2896 Postby KatDaddy » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:38 pm

This is one of most challenging forecasts with 2 tropical systems being close together.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2897 Postby JayTX » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:39 pm

DocB wrote:
CYCLONE MIKE wrote:For those that have lived along the northern gulf coast for many years just take a second and think about all of the storms that have turned north and east quicker than models were showing. It’s going to be riding the outer periphery of the ridge and stair stepping it’s way wnw. Tomorrow there could be a several hours of her moving more north than west, like Marco, and that could easily make a difference of landfalling in SW LA or SC LA. 50-80 miles is not that much difference 60 hrs out.


I have to say, driving from Pensacola to San Antonio today I was a bit shocked at what I saw. Perhaps even a little discouraged.

I would say there was zero concern for any inclement weather in Pensacola. There was a fair amount of traffic heading north from Mobile to Baton Rouge. But nothing like evacuation traffic. Saw quite a few boats and trailers being hauled. Many of them with local plates. So figured people were getting their toys a little further north.

From New Orleans to Houston the traffic was heavier than usual. But again, nothing like evacuation traffic. At the gas stations I stopped at everyone was happy go lucky and carefree. No feeling of concern for what may be coming at them in a couple of days whatsoever.

Traffic heading east out of Houston was lighter than usual. But by no means scant. Did pass a convoy heading east out of Houston of utility trucks. So they obviously are preparing for something to hit east of Houston. Have no idea why they are staging east this early. Still a lot of uncertainty about where this thing hits as well as intensity.

Traffic north west on I 10 from Houston to San Antonio was light. I asked when I checked in at the Hyatt whether they were getting a fair amount of reservations from the Houston area. She told me not at all. They have plenty of vacancies.

Maybe it’s the uncertainty of the storm (both track and intensity) that has people hedging their bets about whether to get out of Dodge. Perhaps it’s concern about COVD. Regardless, seems like there is a level of complacency that could end up being disastrous if a worst-case track/Intensity track bears out.

I was reading about the New Orleans Levee system after I got to the hotel tonight. From what I read it is barely fortified to handle a cat one hurricane/surge. Not really able to handle anything like a major hurricane or surge.

I hope everyone pays attention and gets out of harms way if they’re able.

(I just realized I accidentally posted this in the models thread. Trying to figure out how to delete the entire thread but couldn’t figure it out. My apologies)


Local Pro Mets are down playing it from where I'm sitting. Maybe they have good reason? The models are going back and forth but we'll see.

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2898 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:39 pm

Highteeld wrote:
HouTXmetro wrote:NOLA was removed from the cone earlier today as it shifted West, now it's back in the cone and Houston is out of the cone. Yet we see some models going West and some going east. I need to decide if I will board this plane in the morning to help my mother prepare. Between Marco's forecast and Laura's, The NHC hasn't helped me decide one way or another with the flip flops. This is beyond frustrating.

Was talking about this in another thread, but it seems to me like the cone sizes are too small given poor model performance over the last couple of years, which leads to more of this ^

yep. in my opinion, the cones need to stop shrinking. if anything, they’ve gotten too small.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2899 Postby catskillfire51 » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:46 pm

GFS weaker and Northeast at 48Hrs
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2900 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:47 pm

00z GFS hours 00 -24:
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