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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#2901 Postby Evil Jeremy » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:54 am

Juicy discussion from Stewart incoming...
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#2902 Postby eastcoastFL » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:54 am

jlauderdal wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:A Hurricane Watch has been issued for portions of the Florida east
coast from north of Deerfield Beach northward to the
Volusia-Brevard County Line.

A Tropical Storm Warning has been issued for portions of the
Florida east coast from north of Ocean Reef northward to Sebastian
Inlet and for Lake Okeechobee.


So can you be under a TS Warning and Cane watch?
yep, you can be under both at the same time


Yah sure looks like that’s the case here when I look at the map
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#2903 Postby lhpfish » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:55 am

eastcoastFL wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:A Hurricane Watch has been issued for portions of the Florida east
coast from north of Deerfield Beach northward to the
Volusia-Brevard County Line.

A Tropical Storm Warning has been issued for portions of the
Florida east coast from north of Ocean Reef northward to Sebastian
Inlet and for Lake Okeechobee.


So can you be under a TS Warning and Cane watch?
yep, you can be under both at the same time


Yah sure looks like that’s the case here when I look at the map


Will be interesting to see what they do with the cone... hasn't updated yet.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#2904 Postby aspen » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:56 am

Down to 65 kt, expected to be a strong TS at landfall in NC and a strong post-tropical cyclone by the time it gets to New England.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#2905 Postby gatorcane » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:56 am

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#2906 Postby DestinHurricane » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:57 am

lhpfish wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:yep, you can be under both at the same time


Yah sure looks like that’s the case here when I look at the map


Will be interesting to see what they do with the cone... hasn't updated yet.

updated for me. Barely nudged it west.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#2907 Postby FireRat » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:57 am

Evil Jeremy wrote:HURRICANE WATCH ISSUED FOR PORTIONS OF THE FLORIDA EAST COAST

A Hurricane Watch has been issued for portions of the Florida east
coast from north of Deerfield Beach northward to the
Volusia-Brevard County Line.

A Tropical Storm Warning has been issued for portions of the
Florida east coast from north of Ocean Reef northward to Sebastian
Inlet and for Lake Okeechobee.


Wow, looks like FL is in play again, any 'good news' from earlier was short lived, and Miami north to Daytona are not out of the woods yet! No bueno, gonna be a close call. Hopefully Southeast FL lucks out the way they did with Matthew.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#2908 Postby eastcoastFL » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:59 am

The nhc does not seem to buy into any weakening in the near term

Data from the reconnaissance aircraft indicate that maximum
sustained winds are near 75 mph (120 km/h) with higher gusts. Some
strengthening is possible today and tonight, and Isaias is expected
to remain a hurricane for the next few days.

Hurricane-force winds extend outward up to 35 miles (55 km) from the
center and tropical-storm-force winds extend outward up to 205 miles
(335 km).

Reports from the reconnaissance aircraft indicate that the minimum
central pressure is 992 mb (29.30 inches).
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#2909 Postby chaser1 » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:01 am

Inflow clearly improving from south and west. Forced surface convergence compliments of the East Cuban terrain should allow Isaias to once again puff out his chest today. Nonetheless, the western semicircle of the storm has been degraded and it will be interesting to see if the storm can better expand the right-leaning upper anticyclone over itself. The type of convective bursting taking place over center would certainly go a long way to do that. Just no current banded structure at all so it has a way to go prior to expanding into much of a larger threat (especially on it's western semicircle).
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#2910 Postby caneseddy » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:03 am

Key points from discussion

Dry
downslope air coming off of Hispaniola wrapped into the center,
eroding the inner-core convection somewhat. However, a surge of
moist southwesterly inflow moving through the Windward Passage now
appears to be fueling the recent increase in convection
. The
upper-level outflow has improved somewhat in the western
semicircle but still remains restricted due to some modest
southwesterly vertical wind shear.

The timing and strength of this
trough will determine how far west Isaias moves before the hurricane
turns northward. The 06Z UKMET and and GFS have shifted westward,
closer to the Florida coast, which is similar to the westward shift
seen in the 00Z ECMWF model fields

Although some slight weakening has occurred, radar data from the
aircraft and the Bahamas radar indicate about a 60-percent
eyewall has formed in the northeastern semicircle, which is an
indication that the cyclone is trying to reorganize. As a result,
strengthening is still expected during the next day or so,
especially tonight and Saturday morning during the convective
maximum period when the hurricane will be moving over the Gulf
Stream where SSTs are 30C or warmer and while the vertical remains
reasonably low
. Increasing southwesterly shear could cause a gradual
decrease in intensity over the weekend.

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#2911 Postby eastcoastFL » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:04 am

I didn’t see this part coming


Although some slight weakening has occurred, radar data from the
aircraft and the Bahamas radar indicate about a 60-percent
eyewall has formed in the northeastern semicircle, which is an
indication that the cyclone is trying to reorganize. As a result,
strengthening is still expected during the next day or so,
especially tonight and Saturday morning during the convective
maximum period when the hurricane will be moving over the Gulf
Stream where SSTs are 30C or warmer and while the vertical remains
reasonably low. Increasing southwesterly shear could cause a gradual
decrease in intensity over the weekend. The new official intensity
forecast is similar to the previous advisory, and is a little above
the available model guidance out of respect for continuity.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#2912 Postby Evil Jeremy » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:05 am

The 11AM position is .1 north and .6 west of where NHC forecast it to be at this point in the 11pm advisory last night.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#2913 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:12 am

Evil Jeremy wrote:The 11AM position is .1 north and .6 west of where NHC forecast it to be at this point in the 11pm advisory last night.


yep keeps staying the far left side of the cone. sometimes out of the cone..
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#2914 Postby NDG » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:13 am

Starting to look better on radar than earlier this morning.

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#2915 Postby DestinHurricane » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:15 am

Aric Dunn wrote:
Evil Jeremy wrote:The 11AM position is .1 north and .6 west of where NHC forecast it to be at this point in the 11pm advisory last night.


yep keeps staying the far left side of the cone. sometimes out of the cone..

It's going to have to turn hard NW in the next few hours or else Florida may be in for a surprise.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#2916 Postby GCANE » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:15 am

Looks like that western hot tower did the trick.
Nice CDO building from it.
This is the second big-ass tower to fire it off.
Afternoon convection over Cuba is going to be the next thing to watch for if it can give it another snort
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#2917 Postby Blown Away » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:16 am

Aric Dunn wrote:
Evil Jeremy wrote:The 11AM position is .1 north and .6 west of where NHC forecast it to be at this point in the 11pm advisory last night.


yep keeps staying the far left side of the cone. sometimes out of the cone..


For Florida, model watching over it's satellite time.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#2918 Postby WilmingtonSandbar » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:17 am

gatorcane wrote:I happen to think Isaias is organizing again or on the verge of. Note the deep high tower near the center. Also notice the outer band to the north starting to wrap more to the west and south around. Note too the shear isn’t that bad really. The high clouds over Cuba are only moving modestly north. With a vigorous center and boiling SSTs, expect strengthening:

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/sat/sat ... product=ir


How much could the spine of Cuba effect inflow into Izzy?
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#2919 Postby eastcoastFL » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:18 am

Blown Away wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
Evil Jeremy wrote:The 11AM position is .1 north and .6 west of where NHC forecast it to be at this point in the 11pm advisory last night.


yep keeps staying the far left side of the cone. sometimes out of the cone..


For Florida, model watching over it's satellite time.


Yup and pretty soon radar. I hope I don’t have to make a last minute run and put up shutters...
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Hurricane - Discussion

#2920 Postby Kiko Snowe » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:19 am

I don't imagine Cuba having a very big effect on Isaias at all, honestly. Gonna be a storm to watch.
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