ATL: LAURA - Post-Tropical - Discussion
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Quite a bit stronger from the last past they made through that area too.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
aperson wrote:Looks like it jogged SW some since the last fix
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/744994799861366868/747681336071815238/recon_AF309-1313A-LAURA_zoom.png
Laura is ahead of schedule for even the HWRF which didn’t have the pressure down to 994 until 12z tomorrow.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
If you live in Lake Charles, Beaumont, Port Arthur, or any of the smaller communities in and around those areas, you need to kick it into 4th gear tomorrow. Beat the rush. Get up early and get out or stock up on whatever you need. Get gas tonight if you aren’t over the limit.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Highteeld wrote:Hurricane force flight level winds measured
https://i.imgur.com/xNWsenY.png
That’s the first purple flag I’ve seen so far with Laura. She’s off to the races
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Really liking the robustness of the hot tower going off on the western edge of the LLC. This to me would signify that deep, rich moisture is finally making it into the center of Laura as it moves west of Cuba. This would also signal to me the start of an RI phase. I wouldn't be surprised to see Laura under 970 this time tomorrow; current pressure around 995 mb.


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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Highteeld wrote:Really liking the robustness of the hot tower going off on the western edge of the LLC. This to me would signify that deep, rich moisture is finally making it into the center of Laura as it moves west of Cuba. This would also signal to me the start of an RI phase. I wouldn't be surprised to see Laura under 970 this time tomorrow; current pressure around 995 mb.
https://i.imgur.com/2lzQ556.png
I’m not sure if it’s starting RI already but 970 in 24 hours wouldn’t surprise me on bit. What would constitute RI?
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Whew.
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Maximum Flight Level Wind: 68kts (~ 78.3mph) which was observed 78 nautical miles (90 statute miles) to the NE (48°) from the flight level center at 5:07:00Z
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
994.9mb after crossing the tip of Cuba, nothing slows this girl down.
The west jog is normal for systems jumping to the north shore and we will want to be averaging 5 or 6 hours of motion as she rounds the ridge towards landfall.
Levi Cohen's shear explanation would make more sense for a Cat 4 hurricane needing perfect annular symmetry to attain Cat 5 status just before landfall. Even cat 2 core winds are almost perfect circles protected from light shear as they whirl around at 90 mph, its the tropical storm wind fields that get flat spotted by that kind of shear isn't it?
The west jog is normal for systems jumping to the north shore and we will want to be averaging 5 or 6 hours of motion as she rounds the ridge towards landfall.
Levi Cohen's shear explanation would make more sense for a Cat 4 hurricane needing perfect annular symmetry to attain Cat 5 status just before landfall. Even cat 2 core winds are almost perfect circles protected from light shear as they whirl around at 90 mph, its the tropical storm wind fields that get flat spotted by that kind of shear isn't it?
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
eastcoastFL wrote:Highteeld wrote:Really liking the robustness of the hot tower going off on the western edge of the LLC. This to me would signify that deep, rich moisture is finally making it into the center of Laura as it moves west of Cuba. This would also signal to me the start of an RI phase. I wouldn't be surprised to see Laura under 970 this time tomorrow; current pressure around 995 mb.
https://i.imgur.com/2lzQ556.png
I’m not sure if it’s starting RI already but 970 in 24 hours wouldn’t surprise me on bit. What would constitute RI?
30 knots in 24 hours. So 85 knots a day from now would qualify
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Highteeld wrote:eastcoastFL wrote:Highteeld wrote:Really liking the robustness of the hot tower going off on the western edge of the LLC. This to me would signify that deep, rich moisture is finally making it into the center of Laura as it moves west of Cuba. This would also signal to me the start of an RI phase. I wouldn't be surprised to see Laura under 970 this time tomorrow; current pressure around 995 mb.
https://i.imgur.com/2lzQ556.png
I’m not sure if it’s starting RI already but 970 in 24 hours wouldn’t surprise me on bit. What would constitute RI?
30 knots in 24 hours. So 85 knots a day from now would qualify
00z SHIPS gives that 36% likelihood fwiw
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SHIPS Prob RI for 20kt/ 12hr RI threshold= 24% is 4.9 times climatological mean ( 5.0%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 25kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 54% is 4.9 times climatological mean (10.9%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 30kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 36% is 5.2 times climatological mean ( 6.9%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 35kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 27% is 6.9 times climatological mean ( 3.9%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 40kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 21% is 8.4 times climatological mean ( 2.5%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 45kt/ 36hr RI threshold= 38% is 8.3 times climatological mean ( 4.6%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 55kt/ 48hr RI threshold= 34% is 7.4 times climatological mean ( 4.6%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 65kt/ 72hr RI threshold= 19% is 3.6 times climatological mean ( 5.2%)
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Current storm motion of dead west to southwest if imputed into the models would probably mean a shift to Houston, maybe even west of Houston
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Can't say this short-term westerly movement is surprising due to the amount of convection on the southern end (although the western edge looks better with the hot tower going up). Thus a tendency to pull the center southwest towards the surface pressure fall tendencies via latent heating has been occurring.


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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Unfortunately, I fear Laura looks like she could be another one of the lineage of Gulf monsters...I hope it doesn't happen, but given the time of year and the atmospheric conditions, it just seems more likely than not.
I have relatives in the Beaumont area - an area I've visited and am fond of - and I have advised them to evacuate.
I have relatives in the Beaumont area - an area I've visited and am fond of - and I have advised them to evacuate.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Lost a tick of latitude:
2:00 AM EDT Tue Aug 25
Location: 22.6°N 85.0°W
Moving: WNW at 20 mph
Min pressure: 995 mb
Max sustained: 65 mph
Location: 22.6°N 85.0°W
Moving: WNW at 20 mph
Min pressure: 995 mb
Max sustained: 65 mph
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
So just to be clear we are still no where closer then we were 12 hours ago?
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
catskillfire51 wrote:So just to be clear we are still no where closer then we were 12 hours ago?
The models aren't. But current observations of the tropical storm would favor westerly solutions into Texas IMO
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Yeah we are getting closer, will be Texas landfall
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