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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4101 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:11 pm

There is only one question: When is recon going into the CDO?

EDIT: I spoke too soon

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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4102 Postby NDG » Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:13 pm

Cat5James wrote:
NDG wrote:Saved radar loop, the circulation that you see is the mid level circulation which is to the east of the LLC.

https://i.imgur.com/pVMIxZh.gif

The MLC has all the convection... the LLC will follow


I agree, 18z HWRF shows it clearly that the LLC through tomorrow morning will be going back and forth trying catching up with the MLC as it moves NNE, it shows them to align better during the day tomorrow and for it to strengthen then before moving into the cooler coastal waters early Thursday morning.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4103 Postby Jr0d » Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:17 pm

Sand Key lighthouse about 8 miles off of Key West is showing sustained winds between 24-28kts....if these easterly wobbles continue we will see sustained tropical storm winds out there.

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=sanf1
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4104 Postby sponger » Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:17 pm

Iceresistance wrote:There is only one question: When is recon going into the CDO?

EDIT: I spoke too soon

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/recon_NOAA2-1829A-ETA.png


This should be interesting.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4105 Postby crimi481 » Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:17 pm

Looks E.N.E almost. May land between Ft Meyers and Sarasota.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4106 Postby underthwx » Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:17 pm

Iceresistance wrote:There is only one question: When is recon going into the CDO?

EDIT: I spoke too soon

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/recon_NOAA2-1829A-ETA.png

This recon mission should provide some much needed data for the next advisory, which should be interesting...
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4107 Postby MJGarrison » Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:18 pm

Levi talked about a substantial decoupling of the convention from the center. Is that what we are seeing that is giving the illusion of an easterly component?


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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4108 Postby beachnut » Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:19 pm

GeneratorPower wrote:
SouthFLTropics wrote:Radar image out of Fort Myers sure makes it look like it is making a beeline for the SW Florida coast. Is Eta Charley's younger sister??? I trust the NHC, but this is a real complicated setup that the models have been all over the place with.

NOAA radars are outside Tampa and Miami. Nothing in Fort Myers. Which radar are you using?


Try using NBC-2's doppler: https://nbc-2.com/weather/radar/

Switch the layer to hi-res. I'm not sure if their doppler goes out that far though, they may be pulling in the feed from Key West.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4109 Postby NDG » Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:20 pm

Iceresistance wrote:There is only one question: When is recon going into the CDO?

EDIT: I spoke too soon

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/recon_NOAA2-1829A-ETA.png


According to the 18z HWRF the LLC will be doing a big NE jog over the next few hours trying to catch up to the MLC to later make another NNW jog.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4110 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:21 pm

MJGarrison wrote:Levi talked about a substantial decoupling of the convention from the center. Is that what we are seeing that is giving the illusion of an easterly component?


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with that sustained convection it it decouples having a center reform farther east or the current llc elongate and get pulled is highly likely with this type of convection.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4111 Postby bythetrack » Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:25 pm

Just had a good rainband in Sebring.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4112 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:26 pm

Recon is showing a COMPLETE decoupling of the main circulation, the only explanation why is inside the CDO. . .
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4113 Postby NDG » Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:31 pm

Lets see who is right, Levi or the 18z HWRF which shows the LLC taking a big NNE jog over the next few hours as if it reforms closer to the MLC.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4114 Postby SouthFLTropics » Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:31 pm

beachnut wrote:
GeneratorPower wrote:
SouthFLTropics wrote:Radar image out of Fort Myers sure makes it look like it is making a beeline for the SW Florida coast. Is Eta Charley's younger sister??? I trust the NHC, but this is a real complicated setup that the models have been all over the place with.

NOAA radars are outside Tampa and Miami. Nothing in Fort Myers. Which radar are you using?


Try using NBC-2's doppler: https://nbc-2.com/weather/radar/

Switch the layer to hi-res. I'm not sure if their doppler goes out that far though, they may be pulling in the feed from Key West.


That's the one I was using...
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4115 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:35 pm

The winds per recon are veering .. center has/is reforming under the convection..
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4116 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:36 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:The winds per recon are veering .. center has/is reforming under the convection..

Only time will tell on this one


55 FL winds also inside Eta right now
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4117 Postby aspen » Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:37 pm

Assuming there isn’t a center reformation going on, Eta has an absolutely horrible structure — LLC exposed from deep convection, shallow pressure gradient, rising pressure, etc. I don’t see it strengthening much or at all. Recon barely even supports 45 kt.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4118 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:39 pm

aspen wrote:Assuming there isn’t a center reformation going on, Eta has an absolutely horrible structure — LLC exposed from deep convection, shallow pressure gradient, rising pressure, etc. I don’t see it strengthening much or at all. Recon barely even supports 45 kt.

LLC has acutally decoupled from a possible secondary circulation, but who knows! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4119 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:40 pm

Iceresistance wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:The winds per recon are veering .. center has/is reforming under the convection..

Only time will tell on this one


55 FL winds also inside Eta right now



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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4120 Postby cycloneye » Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:41 pm

29L ETA 201111 0000 23.5N 84.6W ATL 55 990
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