ATL: GONZALO - Remnants - Discussion

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#61 Postby St0rmTh0r » Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:32 pm

Here's the MDR storm so many said needed to happen. Really about to ramp up now!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#62 Postby GeneratorPower » Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:35 pm

My money is on a fizzle overnight. These pop ups will break your heart every time.
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#63 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:39 pm

GeneratorPower wrote:My money is on a fizzle overnight. These pop ups will break your heart every time.
I think most think this will dissipate soon but it is definitely a TD at this time, imo.

Blowup over the center continues to deepen and expand. Whites starting to pop now

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#64 Postby Ubuntwo » Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:47 pm

GeneratorPower wrote:My money is on a fizzle overnight. These pop ups will break your heart every time.

Short term weakening might be expected, but the Euro has this peaking 31 hours from now - there's still time.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#65 Postby sma10 » Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:11 pm

So odd to see 99L just sauntering along at a leisurely pace. Often these July/early Aug waves scream their way across the MDR
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#66 Postby EquusStorm » Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:22 pm

Would be nice to get this classified so those insistent on a pre-August MDR storm for climo validation can be satisfied :D Really tho it definitely seems to happen a little more often in active seasons so if 2020 is gonna approach the seasonal activity forecast, this is a sign it could trend that way

For what it's worth, yeah sure we've had six named storms, but only one of them being truly fully tropical in origin and nature (Cristobal) is rather close to average, getting another before August would certainly put it on up there with the more active ones. With the exceptions of 1999, 2004, etc, which we're still vastly ahead of.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#67 Postby Steve H. » Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:28 pm

Really nice blowup of convection right now near the CoC. If this continues we'll have a TD later this morning. Probably is one now.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#68 Postby ColdMiser123 » Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:44 pm

This is very close to being a classified system if it isn't already one at this point.

While this may get named in the short-term, the mean flow in the Caribbean is still far too strong for a circulation to survive much beyond the Lesser Antilles. During which, 99L will likely open back up into a wave.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#69 Postby Shell Mound » Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:06 am

Classification at this point likely depends on a) persistence of convective organisation and b) a conveniently timed ASCAT pass (particularly for TS classification). Borderline, compact, short-lived cases such as this often jump straight to TS rather than TD status, then degenerate into an open wave just as fast as they “spin up.” If convection persists through the early portion of the diurnal minimum, then this will likely be classified as TS Gonzalo. At this stage, if this ever gets classified later today or (less probably) early tomorrow, I think it is actually more likely to be deemed TS Gonzalo rather than a TD from the onset.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#70 Postby MarioProtVI » Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:15 am

I think the reason NHC has this so low is probably because it is still connected to the ITCZ which is fueling it right now. As soon as it breaks off on its own however....given the current overall conditions you can kinda see why they’re keeping it so low. Then again it’s looking pretty good right now and I would be shocked if they didn’t raise this to at least 40/40 at 2 am.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#71 Postby MarioProtVI » Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:56 am

2. Showers and thunderstorms have increased and become a little better
organized in association with a low pressure system located about
midway between the west coast of Africa and the Lesser Antilles.
Environmental conditions are expected to be somewhat conducive for
development, and a tropical depression could form during the next
couple of days
while the low moves westward at around 10 mph over
the tropical Atlantic. By the weekend, however, less favorable
conditions should limit additional development.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...40 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...40 percent.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#72 Postby Shell Mound » Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:56 am

There almost seems to be a nascent eyewall-type feature over or just west of the low-level centre on the very latest IR frames as of 06:35Z. It resembles a small, upside-down comma shape, and the overall appearance is typical of a sheared, weak TS. Additionally, the circulation of the system is quite compact; the impression of a formative inner core may further confirm this. Microwave imagery could prove revealing. If 99L is not yet Gonzalo, it will likely be named later today. I’m already envisioning a peak of 45 to 50 knots during the next few days before degeneration near the Lesser Antilles.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#73 Postby GCANE » Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:12 am

Current Best Track.
We got a Carib Cruiser

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#74 Postby GCANE » Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:39 am

Very tight 1C Warm Core.
Very impressive for where this is in the MDR and having to flush out SAL.
A classic late Aug / Sept protected pouch in July.

A number of factors are in play for the long term
1) African Easterly Jet has moved significantly south.
2) Rossby Waves have moved significantly north.

Given the fact GFS is forecasting a succession of waves coming of Africa in less than a week apart, only one word can describe the next couple months IMHO: ominous.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#75 Postby GCANE » Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:44 am

Looks like a TD to me.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#76 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:05 am


there's no way you can say that is not in my opinion.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#77 Postby Ubuntwo » Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:08 am

AxaltaRacing24 wrote:

there's no way you can say that is not in my opinion.

These windfield estimates aren't an appropriate way to determine a cyclone's structure. Gotta wait for the next ASCAT pass in a few hours.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#78 Postby GCANE » Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:11 am

GFS kills the forecasted ULL that was supposed to form ahead of this tomorrow.
I thought they were improving the model.

Waiting to see Visible Satellite this morning if the Anticyclone is there.
The way the short-duration high-helicity towers are firing, its a good chance it's there.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#79 Postby supercane4867 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:27 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#80 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:29 am

Continued bursting over the LLC,

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