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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#621 Postby tiger_deF » Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:47 pm

98L is continuing to fire off deep convection to the north, banding is developing in the vicinity as well. The system has also been taking a more WNW/NW heading over the past few hours
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#622 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:56 pm

tiger_deF wrote:98L is continuing to fire off deep convection to the north, banding is developing in the vicinity as well. The system has also been taking a more WNW/NW heading over the past few hours


It's getting close. I think it needs to pop off some good convection around the center and maintain it before we get a classification. Dmax should give it a good boost. I think they'll wait a bit but I've seen worse storms declared before.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#623 Postby Nimbus » Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:56 pm

Definitely a lot of storm relative motion and what will be the center has started to gain a little latitude.
18Z models should be interesting, you would expect a jump in latitude once the convection bursts over the center but that can take a while.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#624 Postby eastcoastFL » Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:58 pm

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I don’t see much shear in the path on the gfs forecast at 60hrs
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#625 Postby eastcoastFL » Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:59 pm

Nimbus wrote:Definitely a lot of storm relative motion and what will be the center has started to gain a little latitude.
18Z models should be interesting, you would expect a jump in latitude once the convection bursts over the center but that can take a while.


18z GFS still running head on into the islands
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#626 Postby eastcoastFL » Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:59 pm

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tiger_deF wrote:98L is continuing to fire off deep convection to the north, banding is developing in the vicinity as well. The system has also been taking a more WNW/NW heading over the past few hours


It's getting close. I think it needs to pop off some good convection around the center and maintain it before we get a classification. Dmax should give it a good boost. I think they'll wait a bit but I've seen worse storms declared before.


I think it looks better than Isaias did during many points of his life
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#627 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:01 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:
Nimbus wrote:Definitely a lot of storm relative motion and what will be the center has started to gain a little latitude.
18Z models should be interesting, you would expect a jump in latitude once the convection bursts over the center but that can take a while.


18z GFS still running head on into the islands


It's north of the big islands but it just doesn't want to fire. Has to be dry air and lack of instability. That's the only thing I can figure.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#628 Postby Kazmit » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:02 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:
Nimbus wrote:Definitely a lot of storm relative motion and what will be the center has started to gain a little latitude.
18Z models should be interesting, you would expect a jump in latitude once the convection bursts over the center but that can take a while.


18z GFS still running head on into the islands

GFS doesn't count. :lol:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#629 Postby tiger_deF » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:04 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:
I don’t see much shear in the path on the gfs forecast at 60hrs


Yeah but the GFS obviously predicts that an insect to the west of the circulation dies suddenly in mid air, disrupting the circulation and dissolving the system
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#630 Postby eastcoastFL » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:07 pm

tiger_deF wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:
I don’t see much shear in the path on the gfs forecast at 60hrs


Yeah but the GFS obviously predicts that an insect to the west of the circulation dies suddenly in mid air, disrupting the circulation and dissolving the system


That may make more sense than its other predictions
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#631 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:09 pm

Must be record time for an invest to be at 90/90%. I couldn't pull the trigger and classify if the Euro & GFS don't develop it. It looks to good on satellite, but the Global Models are what most depend on. I do think 97L is playing a role eroding the ridge once 98l gets near FL turning NW or NNW into EGOM.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#632 Postby eastcoastFL » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:15 pm

Blown Away wrote:Must be record time for an invest to be at 90/90%. I couldn't pull the trigger and classify if the Euro & GFS don't develop it. It looks to good on satellite, but the Global Models are what most depend on. I do think 97L is playing a role eroding the ridge once 98l gets near FL turning NW or NNW into EGOM.


I could classify it as a TD without the Euro and Gfs. How many times have they classified a TD showed it getting to TS over 5 days and staying at that strength and then gradually increasing intensity with each update?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#633 Postby aspen » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:35 pm

This definitely looks closed, and convection is still slightly expanding.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#634 Postby NDG » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:37 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#635 Postby SconnieCane » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:39 pm



DING DING DING DING! (A day early, but those images are good enough for me). :D
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#636 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:41 pm


I’ve seen worse looking TS’s or Hurricanes. Don’t have to go to far back either! *Cough* Isaias *Cough*
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#637 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:42 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:This is how nuts the models are... Some don’t even form a storm. Some have a TS, a few cat 1s and 2s and then there’s HMON.

Never mind the wide array of tracks


https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/hmon/2020081912/hmon_mslp_wind_98L_43.png

Funny considering the HWRF tends to be the more bullish of the two hurricane models.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#638 Postby caneseddy » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:43 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:

I’ve seen worse looking TS’s or Hurricanes. Don’t have to go to far back either! *Cough* Isaias *Cough*


Or Josephine :cheesy:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#639 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:45 pm



Quite impressive!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#640 Postby aspen » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:46 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:

I’ve seen worse looking TS’s or Hurricanes. Don’t have to go to far back either! *Cough* Isaias *Cough*

Nothing can be worse than Half-Bare Barry. I’m pretty sure this system will look far better if it becomes a minor hurricane as well.
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