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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#841 Postby USTropics » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:39 pm

Here is the evolution from Gonzalo's peak last night (around midnight) to 30 minutes ago. This will give a really good illustration of what I've been describing throughout the day:
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#842 Postby supercane4867 » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:48 pm

Disorganized, but definitely enough convection activity to hang on as a TS.

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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#843 Postby RT23 » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:48 pm

I am not discounting a re evolution of Gonzalo as yet. Moisture envelope has not totally diminished.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#844 Postby Nimbus » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:07 pm

Still quite far south.
Shear from the southwest over the Caribbean will probably be the determining factor, depending on the subtropical ridging it might survive.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#845 Postby Hammy » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:07 pm

This might be a sign that 2020 will be the latest consecutive season where the MDR is unfavorable and everything struggles until it gets elsewhere. The whole area south of 20N has been very unfavorable since 2010, with 2017 really being the exception.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#846 Postby FireRat » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:11 pm

USTropics wrote:Here is the evolution from Gonzalo's peak last night (around midnight) to 30 minutes ago. This will give a really good illustration of what I've been describing throughout the day:
https://i.ibb.co/f8zMmSY/Webp-net-gifmaker-6.gif


Very cool loop, looks like someone whacked Gonzo on the head with a bat!

Will he survive? hmm, not sure he'll be a hurricane anymore, such a hideous appearance! You never know though, we shouldn't sleep on this one, but if 57 brings bones here soon though... :lol:
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#847 Postby NDG » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:11 pm

Hot off the press, 12z Euro keeps it intact through the Windward Islands, lol.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#848 Postby CFLHurricane » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:12 pm

Hammy wrote:This might be a sign that 2020 will be the latest consecutive season where the MDR is unfavorable and everything struggles until it gets elsewhere. The whole area south of 20N has been very unfavorable since 2010, with 2017 really being the exception.


Or it’s still July.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#849 Postby NDG » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:13 pm

Hammy wrote:This might be a sign that 2020 will be the latest consecutive season where the MDR is unfavorable and everything struggles until it gets elsewhere. The whole area south of 20N has been very unfavorable since 2010, with 2017 really being the exception.


The same thing happened to TS Don in July 2017 and looked how that season turned out.
Is just July and NOT mid mid to late August.
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#850 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:14 pm

Hammy wrote:This might be a sign that 2020 will be the latest consecutive season where the MDR is unfavorable and everything struggles until it gets elsewhere. The whole area south of 20N has been very unfavorable since 2010, with 2017 really being the exception.

If things struggle through the Tropical Atlantic that means development is delayed and landfall risks greatly increase for the Caribbean, Central America, Mexico, and the U.S.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#851 Postby USTropics » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:15 pm

Hammy wrote:This might be a sign that 2020 will be the latest consecutive season where the MDR is unfavorable and everything struggles until it gets elsewhere. The whole area south of 20N has been very unfavorable since 2010, with 2017 really being the exception.


It's almost a carbon copy of Don in 2017 tbh, same time frame too:
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#852 Postby CyclonicFury » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:16 pm

NDG wrote:
Hammy wrote:This might be a sign that 2020 will be the latest consecutive season where the MDR is unfavorable and everything struggles until it gets elsewhere. The whole area south of 20N has been very unfavorable since 2010, with 2017 really being the exception.


The same thing happened to TS Don in July 2017 and looked how that season turned out.
Is just July and NOT mid mid to late August.

This is important to remember, hurricanes east of the Antilles in the MDR during July are very rare. The only ones I can think of Bertha 1996/2008, Emily 2005, and Beryl 2018.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#853 Postby AveryTheComrade » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:16 pm

Hammy wrote:This might be a sign that 2020 will be the latest consecutive season where the MDR is unfavorable and everything struggles until it gets elsewhere. The whole area south of 20N has been very unfavorable since 2010, with 2017 really being the exception.


2017 had 3 struggling MDR storms in the early season and look how that turned off, it's much too early to write off the MDR this year
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#854 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:19 pm

Hammy wrote:This might be a sign that 2020 will be the latest consecutive season where the MDR is unfavorable and everything struggles until it gets elsewhere. The whole area south of 20N has been very unfavorable since 2010, with 2017 really being the exception.

With all due respect, it is still only July 23rd.

We technically shouldn't even be on our 7th storm let alone having an MDR storm right now.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#855 Postby MarioProtVI » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:20 pm

Hammy wrote:This might be a sign that 2020 will be the latest consecutive season where the MDR is unfavorable and everything struggles until it gets elsewhere. The whole area south of 20N has been very unfavorable since 2010, with 2017 really being the exception.

I also heard mid-level dry air could also be an issue later down the road.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#856 Postby Ubuntwo » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:24 pm

Hammy wrote:This might be a sign that 2020 will be the latest consecutive season where the MDR is unfavorable and everything struggles until it gets elsewhere. The whole area south of 20N has been very unfavorable since 2010, with 2017 really being the exception.

This is a July MDR storm that formed despite little prior model support. Doesn't seem to indicate anything of the sort.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#857 Postby BYG Jacob » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:27 pm

Hammy wrote:This might be a sign that 2020 will be the latest consecutive season where the MDR is unfavorable and everything struggles until it gets elsewhere. The whole area south of 20N has been very unfavorable since 2010, with 2017 really being the exception.

Seriously?
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#858 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:34 pm

We've had an insanely active early season. We're making assumptions as if it were August while forgetting that dry air in the MDR is perfectly normal this time of year. 2017 didn't have any significant storms in the MDR by this point either.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#859 Postby b0tzy29 » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:55 pm

Gonzalo may hang on. Still come convection around the center and the latest Euro keeps it intact.

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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Tropical Storm- Discussion

#860 Postby plasticup » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:56 pm

USTropics wrote:Here is the evolution from Gonzalo's peak last night (around midnight) to 30 minutes ago. This will give a really good illustration of what I've been describing throughout the day:
https://i.ibb.co/f8zMmSY/Webp-net-gifmaker-6.gif


Can't help but look at that organizing mess in the gulf....
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