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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#861 Postby NDG » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:27 am

Ubuntwo wrote:A ship SE of the storm's center just reported 48kt sustained winds.


You are correct, and an area when the recon hasn't sampled yet.

SHIP S 1200 26.90 -92.20 43 98 170 48.0 - 13.1 4.0 - - 29.68
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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#862 Postby Extratropical94 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:31 am

GCANE wrote:999.5 from 1001.8 mb in 1.5 hrs


I believe the pressure on the first pass was 1000.5, but the rate of deepening is still enough to get Hanna to sub-990 until tomorrow.
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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#863 Postby Jr0d » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:32 am

wx98 wrote:Good reminder of the time of year. I’ve been very skeptical from the start of those calling for RI to Cat 2, 3, 4. It appears slightly stronger this morning, yet slightly more disorganized than last night. A minimal hurricane will be difficult at this rate, unless it can get it’s act together this afternoon.


Looked likely at 3am....now with the lopsidedness, not so much. Still think its probable Hanna can reach hurrixane strength.
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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#864 Postby aspen » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:35 am

If Hanna can get some of its convection wrapped into its northern quadrant, I can see a minimal hurricane before landfall. So far it’s the most impressive storm of the Atlantic this year just based on convection (although potential future Isaias will probably blow it out of the water if the Euro runs are right).
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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#865 Postby texsn95 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:36 am

Is she on a more NW track now?
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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#866 Postby EquusStorm » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:37 am

Probably the 65kt threshold right at landfall is possible if external factors don't cause issues, certainly don't want a significant hurricane for evacuation and hospital power reasons during the pandemic
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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#867 Postby Highteeld » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:40 am

6z euro has around a 994 mb landfall, but the model is about 4 to 5 mb too high for central pressure for the current hour.
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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#868 Postby catskillfire51 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:48 am

Highteeld wrote:6z euro has around a 994 mb landfall, but the model is about 4 to 5 mb too high for central pressure for the current hour.


The 6z Euro I am looking at initiated the 6z at 1008mb.
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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#869 Postby Texashawk » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:48 am

texsn95 wrote:Is she on a more NW track now?


Looking at long range radar, it seems that way, maybe moving 310 erratically right now?
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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#870 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:51 am

Cpv17 wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:Hanna needs to get some convection going on it’s NW side in order to RI or intensify into a hurricane. Hanna kind of reminds me of Hurricane Alex in 2010 where the pressure was dropping yet the winds weren’t increasing due to its large and broad size. Never was able to maintain major status before heading into NE Mexico south of the Texas border.


This is why places like Brownsville will probably get more rain than places like Victoria and points north of there. Odd. Very little convection north of the center. I guess the dry air is doing that.

It looked a little better and more symmetric last night but I guess it got ahold of some continental dry air.
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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#871 Postby xironman » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:55 am

Cpv17 wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:Hanna needs to get some convection going on it’s NW side in order to RI or intensify into a hurricane. Hanna kind of reminds me of Hurricane Alex in 2010 where the pressure was dropping yet the winds weren’t increasing due to its large and broad size. Never was able to maintain major status before heading into NE Mexico south of the Texas border.


This is why places like Brownsville will probably get more rain than places like Victoria and points north of there. Odd. Very little convection north of the center. I guess the dry air is doing that.


Shear is doing the work more than dry air.
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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#872 Postby catskillfire51 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:55 am

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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#873 Postby NDG » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:58 am

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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#874 Postby gatorcane » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:58 am

There is mid-level shear that is clearly impacting Hanna. Also we should see some dry air start getting wrapped in from the SW from mainland Mexico though dry air appears to be less of an issue. Both of these reasons are likely why the models consensus is not calling for a hurricane at landfall.

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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#875 Postby texsn95 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:07 am

Texashawk wrote:
texsn95 wrote:Is she on a more NW track now?


Looking at long range radar, it seems that way, maybe moving 310 erratically right now?


Looks that way from the picture cats posted. What are the driving forces that are steering her?
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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#876 Postby cainjamin » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:12 am

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Hmm... Interesting warm spot popping up near where recon last reported the centre. Could be beginning to see the starting of an inner core forming. The next pass through will be one to watch.
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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#877 Postby alan1961 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:12 am

Centre becoming a little exposed

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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#878 Postby Kazmit » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:15 am

It's lopsided but looks really impressive south of the center. :eek:
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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#879 Postby cheezyWXguy » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:18 am

alan1961 wrote:Centre becoming a little exposed

https://img.techpowerup.org/200724/hanna.jpg


Interesting how two posts back to back can have completely different interpretations of the same satellite image. I think the center is actually that warm spot though. The radar loop above seems to match more clearly with that interpretation to me
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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

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