ATL: SALLY - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#861 Postby JPmia » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:03 pm

correct me if I'm wrong, but Fowey Rocks is used quite often down here when we have storms around. Not sure why folks are saying that station's readings are not worthy of consideration.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#862 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:04 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
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So I'm seeing they just changed on NHC she's now named Sally... did she seriously develop over the glades? Or did she stay south FLa bay, I've been outta loop as driving today


Aric you're spot on with the LLC. Lowest pressure at Naples now at 29.69 in.


Here are some surface obs as well .. for those that have disregarded recon ... and as you mentioned marco island also has the lowest pressure.. 1003mb

https://i.ibb.co/HBvpjdx/Capture.png


Lol now I really am confused. That NNW surface on would corroborate your onshore center, but recon found it offshore
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#863 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:04 pm

Three Storms have made landfall on 2020 in Louisiana and Sally will be the 4th. Is this a record for the state?

1#. Cristóbal.
2#. Marco.
3#. Laura.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#864 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:08 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:
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Aric you're spot on with the LLC. Lowest pressure at Naples now at 29.69 in.


Here are some surface obs as well .. for those that have disregarded recon ... and as you mentioned marco island also has the lowest pressure.. 1003mb

https://i.ibb.co/HBvpjdx/Capture.png


Lol now I really am confused. That NNW surface on would corroborate your onshore center, but recon found it offshore


it is near land.. probably couple little eddys. recon was flying at 925 mb. surface obs are surface obs of course. it was not that big of a difference though.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#865 Postby NDG » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:08 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
ronjon wrote:
TimSmith wrote:
So I'm seeing they just changed on NHC she's now named Sally... did she seriously develop over the glades? Or did she stay south FLa bay, I've been outta loop as driving today


Aric you're spot on with the LLC. Lowest pressure at Naples now at 29.69 in.



Here are some surface obs as well .. for those that have disregarded recon ... and as you mentioned marco island also has the lowest pressure.. 1003mb

https://i.ibb.co/HBvpjdx/Capture.png


I spoke to soon when I looked at the recon, I agree with you, even Naples airport is showing 1005 mb pressure with ENE winds.

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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#866 Postby NDG » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:10 pm

cycloneye wrote:Three Storms have made landfall on 2020 in Louisiana and Sally will be the 4th. Is this a record for the state?

1#. Cristóbal.
2#. Marco.
3#. Laura.


Did Marco make landfall as a TS at the mouth of MS river? I thought it didn't.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#867 Postby ronjon » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:10 pm

Not much convection on the north side of LLC other than outer bands up in central FL. Northerly shear must still be impacting the storm. I would think convection would start to fill in tonight to the north of the storm.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#868 Postby DestinHurricane » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:13 pm

The center is way east of GFS forecast Image
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#869 Postby ClarCari » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:14 pm

NDG wrote:
cycloneye wrote:Three Storms have made landfall on 2020 in Louisiana and Sally will be the 4th. Is this a record for the state?

1#. Cristóbal.
2#. Marco.
3#. Laura.


Did Marco make landfall as a TS at the mouth of MS river? I thought it didn't.

It did near the mouth as a 40mph TS but most of that was displaced to the NE over water..so barely lol
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#870 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:15 pm

it does not get much more clear than that.. tracking over Marco island.. should pop off the coast around or south naples.

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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#871 Postby TimSmith » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:16 pm

Kingarabian wrote:I think the NHC's intensity forecast is reasonable. Though it is the GOM and there's always the chance of a system going bonkers.


Yeah, in GOM always possible for sudden " whatever is faster than rapid intensification"... Remember Michael was ( on T + 72 hour ) forecasted to be a strong landfalling tropical storm! A lot of interesting hypothesis to be studied as to the how/why/where so that intensification models can be improved, but in meantime just gotta look at bigger picture common sense. For this current storm think we'll be dealing with probably strong cat 2, not some monster, as it appears surrounding environmentally set up not overly favorable possibly shear building as approaches northern gulf coast
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#872 Postby NDG » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:18 pm

Like I said earlier, great job by the 12z Euro.

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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#873 Postby USTropics » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:19 pm

ClarCari wrote:
NDG wrote:
cycloneye wrote:Three Storms have made landfall on 2020 in Louisiana and Sally will be the 4th. Is this a record for the state?

1#. Cristóbal.
2#. Marco.
3#. Laura.


Did Marco make landfall as a TS at the mouth of MS river? I thought it didn't.

It did near the mouth as a 40mph TS but most of that was displaced to the NE over water..so barely lol


Correct, it technically made landfall right near the mouth of MS river before becoming decoupled and the remnants moved westward.

At 23:00 UTC on August 24, Marco made landfall near the mouth of the Mississippi River, with 1-minute sustained winds at 40 mph (65 km/h) and a central pressure of 1,006 mbar (29.7 inHg).


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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#874 Postby ClarCari » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:19 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:it does not get much more clear than that.. tracking over Marco island.. should pop off the coast around or south naples.

https://i.ibb.co/nRF3Zv1/LABELS-19700101-000000-20.gif


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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#875 Postby aspen » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:21 pm

NDG wrote:Like I said earlier, great job by the 12z Euro.

https://i.imgur.com/pOUghSd.gif

“Great job” and “Euro” being in the same sentence has been such an extraordinarily rare occurrence this year. For once, it’s doing a decent job, at least track-wise.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#876 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:22 pm

1002-1003mb marco island. lower than recon.

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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#877 Postby 3090 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:22 pm

cycloneye wrote:Three Storms have made landfall on 2020 in Louisiana and Sally will be the 4th. Is this a record for the state?

1#. Cristóbal.
2#. Marco.
3#. Laura.


I would have to guess, yes.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#878 Postby NDG » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:23 pm

aspen wrote:
NDG wrote:Like I said earlier, great job by the 12z Euro.

https://i.imgur.com/pOUghSd.gif

“Great job” and “Euro” being in the same sentence has been such an extraordinarily rare occurrence this year. For once, it’s doing a decent job, at least track-wise.


Yes, at least on its short term is now doing a fairly decent job with the track of the storm.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#879 Postby DestinHurricane » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:24 pm

NDG wrote:
aspen wrote:
NDG wrote:Like I said earlier, great job by the 12z Euro.

https://i.imgur.com/pOUghSd.gif

“Great job” and “Euro” being in the same sentence has been such an extraordinarily rare occurrence this year. For once, it’s doing a decent job, at least track-wise.


Yes, at least on its short term is now doing a fairly decent job with the track of the storm.


Looks like euro is WAY too weak which may be causing it to be so far west.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#880 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:24 pm

Sallys just crawling up the line eating it like Mrs.Pacman and puffing up along the way

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