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Re: ATL: FAY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#461 Postby TheAustinMan » Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:44 pm

A few of the peak wind gusts from Fay so far near the Delaware Bay. A bit gusty this morning and afternoon, but the principal threat remains the heavy rain and flooding ongoing across the area.

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Re: ATL: FAY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#462 Postby GCANE » Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:45 pm

It took that hard left and then seems to have stalled a bit.

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Re: ATL: FAY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#463 Postby NXStumpy_Robothing » Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:55 pm

GCANE wrote:It took that hard left and then seems to have stalled a bit.

https://i.imgur.com/dooqMb4.png

Well, that line appears to be following the eddy inside the LLC that is now consolidating said circulation tighter around it, and, while Fay may have slowed down slightly, the general motion of the system is still NNE.

OT from your comment, but this storm has been absolutely gorgeous visually. I'm appreciating it before it begins to degrade over land later today.
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Re: ATL: FAY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#464 Postby Do_For_Love » Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:05 pm

Rain still coming down here, it's been varying between steady and heavy all day. The network news was calling for us to get about an inch or so this morning and I think we have exceeded that. The Philadelphia airport seems to be reporting over 2 inches since this morning, if i'm reading it right: https://w1.weather.gov/data/obhistory/KPHL.html

It has been dry around here recently so the rain is beneficial in a sense. Hopefully there isn't too much damage from the flooding that's occurring.
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Re: ATL: FAY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#465 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:24 pm

How is Fay still classifiable as purely Tropical in nature? If anything it could easily be Post-Tropical in my opinion on the 5pm advisory. Not to mention The Weather Channel is comparing it to notable Nor’easters! :lol:
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#466 Postby Shell Mound » Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:26 pm

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Re: ATL: FAY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#467 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:39 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:How is Fay still classifiable as purely Tropical in nature? If anything it could easily be Post-Tropical in my opinion on the 5pm advisory. Not to mention The Weather Channel is comparing it to notable Nor’easters! :lol:


It is clearly non-frontal though and there is still deep convection. Subtropical might be a better classification, but I would disagree on post-tropical.
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Re: ATL: FAY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#468 Postby Do_For_Love » Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:46 pm

Starting to lighten up here and the rain has slowed up a lot, just coming down lightly now. Seems like Fay is all but moved out of Delaware. Interestingly though, the wind seems to have actually picked up a bit in the last half an hour.
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Re: ATL: FAY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#469 Postby GCANE » Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:58 pm

There was a brief period where the cumulus over east VA developed gravity waves indicating an uptick in unstable air.
It then got ingested into Fay.
Cumulus is now building over the surface vort.
Looks like its going to track just offshore the coast of Delaware.
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Re: ATL: FAY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#470 Postby GCANE » Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:59 pm

NXStumpy_Robothing wrote:
GCANE wrote:It took that hard left and then seems to have stalled a bit.

https://i.imgur.com/dooqMb4.png

Well, that line appears to be following the eddy inside the LLC that is now consolidating said circulation tighter around it, and, while Fay may have slowed down slightly, the general motion of the system is still NNE.

OT from your comment, but this storm has been absolutely gorgeous visually. I'm appreciating it before it begins to degrade over land later today.


If its on the surface, the eddy is the track.
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Re: ATL: FAY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#471 Postby Hammy » Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:04 pm

Track and satellite appearance remind me of Danielle in 1992. Not common we see tropical storms ride up the coast here, especially if they're not long trackers that came from further south.
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Re: ATL: FAY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#472 Postby NDG » Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:07 pm

GCANE wrote:It took that hard left and then seems to have stalled a bit.

https://i.imgur.com/dooqMb4.png


Typical stair stepping when an LLC is part of a broader circulation.
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Re: ATL: FAY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#473 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:32 pm

Alright it might not be Tropical but Subtropical though it’s behaving like a Nor’easter minus the snow.

 https://twitter.com/derekortt/status/1281671173022060546


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Re: ATL: FAY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#474 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:33 pm

Hammy wrote:Track and satellite appearance remind me of Danielle in 1992. Not common we see tropical storms ride up the coast here, especially if they're not long trackers that came from further south.

Yeah Fay’s due north track is uncommon. Used to seeing a track more northeasterly. Hopefully this is not a precursor of what’s to come this season especially for the Carolinas and places north.
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Re: ATL: FAY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#475 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:01 pm

What are the chances that the sustained -NAO is the reason behind why we’re seeing Fay? Just like during the winter season with a -NAO and Nor’easters.

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Re: ATL: FAY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#476 Postby NXStumpy_Robothing » Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:12 pm

We should have landfall by the 5pm update, but this thing has continued to surprise me, so we'll see what it does.

Low-level clouds are improving and the system seems to be making a late push at some improvement in structure, but that's not really going to matter much. Still nice to look at, though.
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Re: ATL: FAY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#477 Postby weathaguyry » Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:35 pm

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Tide is not going out as much as it should be here on Southern Long Island, this will be an interesting few hours as the center passes directly to my west
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Re: ATL: FAY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#478 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:08 pm

Coastal obs and the lack of any heavy squalls offshore indicate that Fay no longer has any TS winds. I see recon is on the way. That should confirm it. Remember, without squalls, FL winds will be much higher than surface winds. Max winds along the coast of NJ and Long Island I'm seeing are 20 kts. Fay is probably at 25-30 kts now. Oh, I just saw a 25kt wind ob on the north coast of Long Island. Not sure what station.
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Re: ATL: FAY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#479 Postby plasticup » Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:08 pm

weathaguyry wrote:https://ny.water.usgs.gov/rt/pub/01311143_z_002400.gif

Tide is not going out as much as it should be here on Southern Long Island, this will be an interesting few hours as the center passes directly to my west


Looks like at most 2 feet of surge. Probably less. Will that be a problem?
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Re: ATL: FAY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#480 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:11 pm

plasticup wrote:
weathaguyry wrote:https://ny.water.usgs.gov/rt/pub/01311143_z_002400.gif

Tide is not going out as much as it should be here on Southern Long Island, this will be an interesting few hours as the center passes directly to my west


Looks like at most 2 feet of surge. Probably less. Will that be a problem?


Tides 1-2 ft above normal shouldn't cause any significant issues.
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