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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2421 Postby HurricaneBelle » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:30 pm

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Steve wrote:Y'all about to get rocked.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 80122&fh=4


It won’t be bad. Just like a typical summer storm. Florida is used to it. They’ve gone through much worse.


Everybody always says this when looking at peak gusts, but typical Florida summer storms don't bring hours of sustained winds.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2422 Postby toad strangler » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:34 pm

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cp79 wrote:
Steve wrote:Y'all about to get rocked.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 80122&fh=4


It won’t be bad. Just like a typical summer storm. Florida is used to it. They’ve gone through much worse.


Everybody always says this when looking at peak gusts, but typical Florida summer storms don't bring hours of sustained winds.


THis really is a great point. :flag:
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2423 Postby mutley » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:36 pm

HurricaneBelle wrote:
cp79 wrote:
Steve wrote:Y'all about to get rocked.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 80122&fh=4


It won’t be bad. Just like a typical summer storm. Florida is used to it. They’ve gone through much worse.


Everybody always says this when looking at peak gusts, but typical Florida summer storms don't bring hours of sustained winds.

You are right Belle. Sustained winds bring much more debris onto power lines. Making repairs much more numerous. However, we (in Ocala) frequently lose power during thunderstorms, the last time, about a week ago, a transformer blew. But usually the power is restored quite quickly.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2424 Postby Jr0d » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:39 pm

otowntiger wrote:
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jhpigott wrote:12z HWRF simulated IR looks to bring some nasty weather to the SEFL Coast on up towards the Space Coast

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 80112&fh=9


Look what the HWRF does on the simulated IR between hours 6 and 12. Does anyone believe that?

I do not. It is just about impossible for it do that in its current position and especially its current state.


Still think that is impossible?

Impressive blow up. If Isaias can maintain the convection, he might be upgraded at 11pm.

As impressive as this is, its might be a pulse and will not sustain the convection very long. If it does...watch out!

Still no outflow though, if it can establish some outflow I dont think RI is out of the question, especially with a slower speed and more time over the gulf stream.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2425 Postby toad strangler » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:41 pm

Jr0d wrote:
otowntiger wrote:
ronjon wrote:
Look what the HWRF does on the simulated IR between hours 6 and 12. Does anyone believe that?

I do not. It is just about impossible for it do that in its current position and especially its current state.


Still think that is impossible?

Impressive blow up. If Isaias can maintain the convection, he might be upgraded at 11pm.

As impressive as this is, its might be a pulse and will not sustain the convection very long. If it does...watch out!

Still no outflow though, if it can establish some outflow I dont think RI is out of the question, especially with a slower speed and more time over the gulf stream.



I think the better bet is a wane of this current pulse and then another pulse thereafter. Wash, rinse, repeat with Isaias?
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2426 Postby MJGarrison » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:00 pm

I know we are wobble watching and not model watching right now, but the 18Z Euro stays off the coast.


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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2427 Postby ColdMiser123 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:06 pm

MJGarrison wrote:I know we are wobble watching and not model watching right now, but the 18Z Euro stays off the coast.


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Quite a difference from previous runs, and also significantly stronger with intensity overall. Lots of uncertainty still left with this storm both with track and intensity.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2428 Postby mutley » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:09 pm

ColdMiser123 wrote:
MJGarrison wrote:I know we are wobble watching and not model watching right now, but the 18Z Euro stays off the coast.


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Quite a difference from previous runs, and also significantly stronger with intensity overall. Lots of uncertainty still left with this storm both with track and intensity.

I agree with you. People in Florida should set their alarms for very early tomorrow, and see what they are facing
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2429 Postby cp79 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:20 pm

HurricaneBelle wrote:
cp79 wrote:
Steve wrote:Y'all about to get rocked.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 80122&fh=4


It won’t be bad. Just like a typical summer storm. Florida is used to it. They’ve gone through much worse.


Everybody always says this when looking at peak gusts, but typical Florida summer storms don't bring hours of sustained winds.


Yeah but I’d rather deal with 40mph sustained gusts than 150mph sustained gusts. Much more manageable.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2430 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:23 pm

cp79 wrote:
HurricaneBelle wrote:
cp79 wrote:
It won’t be bad. Just like a typical summer storm. Florida is used to it. They’ve gone through much worse.


Everybody always says this when looking at peak gusts, but typical Florida summer storms don't bring hours of sustained winds.


Yeah but I’d rather deal with 40mph sustained gusts than 150mph sustained gusts. Much more manageable.

Typical summertime Florida storms usually bring wind gusts up to 40-60mph.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2431 Postby toad strangler » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:42 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
cp79 wrote:
HurricaneBelle wrote:
Everybody always says this when looking at peak gusts, but typical Florida summer storms don't bring hours of sustained winds.


Yeah but I’d rather deal with 40mph sustained gusts than 150mph sustained gusts. Much more manageable.

Typical summertime Florida storms usually bring wind gusts up to 40-60mph.


YES but as pointed out earlier on this board typical Florida summertime storms don't have these gusts last for HOURS. Not even comparable. :spam:

18z Euro is off the coast and a East Coast FL miss BTW.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2432 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:46 pm

toad strangler wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:
cp79 wrote:
Yeah but I’d rather deal with 40mph sustained gusts than 150mph sustained gusts. Much more manageable.

Typical summertime Florida storms usually bring wind gusts up to 40-60mph.


YES but as pointed out earlier on this board typical Florida summertime storms don't have these gusts last for HOURS. Not even comparable. :spam:

18z Euro is off the coast and a East Coast FL miss BTW.


What does 18z ECMWF do with the Carolinas?
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2433 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:47 pm

toad strangler wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:
cp79 wrote:
Yeah but I’d rather deal with 40mph sustained gusts than 150mph sustained gusts. Much more manageable.

Typical summertime Florida storms usually bring wind gusts up to 40-60mph.


YES but as pointed out earlier on this board typical Florida summertime storms don't have these gusts last for HOURS. Not even comparable. :spam:

18z Euro is off the coast and a East Coast FL miss BTW.


I would compare the winds we are seeing so far to what we get in the late fall and winter here in SE Florida when a strong high pressure system builds in down the eastern seaboard behind a cold front. We could easily see mid 30s wind gusts in these scenarios and out of a similar ENE to NE direction. Sometimes these winds last for a few days.

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2434 Postby Steve » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:58 pm

HRRR 00z is running now. It runs 36 hours, so we can see what it thinks as of now running through Monday at 8am. NAM's are next then ICON, GFS, Hurricanes/CMC then European. I think after the FL brush, we're getting close to seeing if Isaias is going to affect a lot of other areas in the next 84-90 hours or so. Cool storm.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2435 Postby cp79 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:00 pm

If the 18z Euro pans out, Fla is in good shape.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2436 Postby Blown Away » Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:01 pm

00z TVCN landfalls NE PBC and goes inland a couple miles and rides the coast.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2437 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:08 pm

cp79 wrote:If the 18z Euro pans out, Fla is in good shape.

honestly, the euro has been all over every single run. more so than the gfs.

not saying it is wrong, but its been inconsistent
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2438 Postby DestinHurricane » Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:12 pm

Blown Away wrote:00z TVCN landfalls NE PBC and goes inland a couple miles and rides the coast.


Should the NHC shift west next advisory? I think not considering the storms current position and movement.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2439 Postby SFLcane » Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:14 pm

toad strangler wrote:
HurricaneBelle wrote:
cp79 wrote:
It won’t be bad. Just like a typical summer storm. Florida is used to it. They’ve gone through much worse.


Everybody always says this when looking at peak gusts, but typical Florida summer storms don't bring hours of sustained winds.


THis really is a great point. :flag:


Great point! But there is still not been any reports of sustained TS winds across mainland SFL. We will see if that changes overnight.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2440 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:17 pm

SFLcane wrote:
toad strangler wrote:
HurricaneBelle wrote:
Everybody always says this when looking at peak gusts, but typical Florida summer storms don't bring hours of sustained winds.


THis really is a great point. :flag:


Great point! But there is still not been any reports of sustained TS winds across mainland SFL. We will see if that changes overnight.

the storm isn't here yet. there won't be any of those until later tonight or morning most likely.
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