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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#201 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:59 am

Hurricane Genevieve Discussion Number 9
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL EP122020
900 AM MDT Tue Aug 18 2020

Since the issuance of the last advisory, Genevieve has continued to
rapidly intensify. The major hurricane has a very well-defined and
clear eye and microwave imagery as recent as 12Z did not show any
indication of a secondary eyewall. Objective intensity estimates
from the UW-CIMSS SATCON were as high as 124 kt earlier this
morning, but subjective Dvorak estimates at 12Z were a little lower
due to the formation of a small break in the cold cloud tops
surrounding Genevieve's eye. Even then, a blend of all available
intensity estimates still supports an intensity of 115 kt for this
advisory.

Additional rapid strengthening is possible for at least the next
12 h given the current structure of the hurricane and the extremely
favorable environment it is moving through. The NHC forecast is well
above the guidance for the next 24 h out of respect for that
possibility. It is worth noting that eyewall replacement cycles are
generally poorly forecast and the onset of one could bring an
abrupt halt to Genevieve's intensification. By the time Genevieve
nears the Baja California peninsula on late Wednesday, rapid
weakening is expected as the system moves over cooler waters and
encounters an increase in southwesterly shear associated with an
upper-level trough to the northwest. Upwelling from the hurricane's
own wind field and decreasing forward speed could also bring about
weakening. By the end of the weak Genevieve will likely weaken to a
tropical storm and then become a remnant low.

The hurricane is moving slightly slower toward the northwest and a
further decrease in forward speed is anticipated for the next day
or two. There was no substantial change made to the NHC track
forecast, and Genevieve is still predicted to be steered just west
of the Baja California peninsula by a deep-layer ridge centered over
the southwestern U.S. The track guidance remains tightly clustered,
so confidence in the forecast remains fairly high.

Key Messages:

1. The center of Genevieve is forecast to move just west of the Baja
California peninsula, but it is still expected to cause tropical
storm conditions across portions of southern Baja California Sur.
These conditions are expected to begin Wednesday afternoon and
could spread northwestward through Thursday.

2. Large swells generated by Genevieve are affecting portions of the
coast of southern Mexico and will spread northward along the coast
of Mexico to the Baja California peninsula by Wednesday.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 18/1500Z 18.0N 108.0W 115 KT 130 MPH
12H 19/0000Z 19.0N 109.3W 130 KT 150 MPH
24H 19/1200Z 20.2N 110.4W 130 KT 150 MPH
36H 20/0000Z 21.3N 111.3W 120 KT 140 MPH
48H 20/1200Z 22.2N 112.3W 105 KT 120 MPH
60H 21/0000Z 23.2N 113.5W 90 KT 105 MPH
72H 21/1200Z 24.1N 115.0W 75 KT 85 MPH
96H 22/1200Z 26.3N 118.1W 50 KT 60 MPH
120H 23/1200Z 28.7N 121.4W 35 KT 40 MPH...POST-TROPICAL

$$
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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#202 Postby aspen » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:02 am

130 kt forecasted peak :double:
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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#203 Postby mrbagyo » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:40 am

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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#204 Postby AnnularCane » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:43 am

She's watching the sunrise. :)
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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#205 Postby shiny-pebble » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:55 am

I wonder if it drew some dry air in the core earlier? CDO warmed a little and there was a dry slot south of the center. But clearly, whatever was there is being mixed out quickly;
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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#206 Postby EquusStorm » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:00 pm

Definitely warmer cloud tops than one would expect in the eyewall of a category four but wow that's an amazing eye.
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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#207 Postby supercane4867 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:03 pm

CDO temperature is surprisingly unimpressive... Hardly any B shades on Dvorak.
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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#208 Postby plasticup » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:41 pm

Still a stunningly beautiful hurricane.
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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#209 Postby Yellow Evan » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:09 pm

18/1730 UTC 18.3N 108.3W T5.0/5.5 GENEVIEVE
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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#210 Postby Yellow Evan » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:10 pm

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WTPZ32 KNHC 181746
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Hurricane Genevieve Intermediate Advisory Number 9A
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL EP122020
1200 PM MDT Tue Aug 18 2020

...EYE OF GENEVIEVE HEADING NORTHWESTWARD...
...TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS EXPECTED OVER PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHERN
BAJA CALIFORNIA PENINSULA WHEN THE CENTER OF GENEVIEVE PASSES TO
THE WEST ON WEDNESDAY...


SUMMARY OF 1200 PM MDT...1800 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...18.4N 108.4W
ABOUT 270 MI...435 KM WSW OF MANZANILLO MEXICO
ABOUT 325 MI...525 KM SSE OF THE SOUTHERN TIP OF BAJA CALIFORNIA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...130 MPH...215 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NW OR 310 DEGREES AT 14 MPH...23 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...950 MB...28.06 INCHES


WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------
CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:

None.

SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT:

A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect for...
* Southern Baja California peninsula from Los Barriles to Todos
Santos

A Tropical Storm Watch is in effect for...
* The east coast of the Baja California peninsula from Los Barriles
to La Paz
* The west coast of the Baja California peninsula from Todos Santos
to Santa Fe

A Tropical Storm Warning means that tropical storm conditions are
expected somewhere within the warning area within 36 hours.

A Tropical Storm Watch means that tropical storm conditions are
possible within the watch area, generally within 48 hours.

For storm information specific to your area, please monitor
products issued by your national meteorological service.


DISCUSSION AND OUTLOOK
----------------------
At 1200 PM MDT (1800 UTC), the clear eye of Hurricane Genevieve was
located near latitude 18.4 North, longitude 108.4 West. Genevieve is
moving toward the northwest near 14 mph (23 km/h). This general
motion is expected to continue with a decrease in forward speed
through early Thursday. On the forecast track, the center of
Genevieve is expected to move parallel to but well offshore the
coast of southwestern Mexico today. The center of the hurricane is
then forecast to move to the southwest of the southern portion of
the Baja California peninsula on Wednesday night and Thursday.

Maximum sustained winds are near 130 mph (215 km/h) with higher
gusts. Genevieve is a category 4 hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson
Hurricane Wind Scale. Additional strengthening is possible today and
tonight. Weakening is forecast to begin by late Wednesday and should
continue through the end of the week.

Hurricane-force winds extend outward up to 30 miles (45 km) from
the center and tropical-storm-force winds extend outward up to 150
miles (240 km).

The estimated minimum central pressure is 950 mb (28.06 inches).


HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND
----------------------
WIND: Tropical storm conditions are expected within the warning
area in the southern Baja California peninsula by Wednesday
afternoon, especially over higher terrain. Tropical storm
conditions are possible within the watch area by Wednesday night or
Thursday morning, especially over higher terrain.

RAINFALL: Genevieve is expected to produce rainfall amounts of 1 to
4 inches across portions of far southern Baja California Sur and
portions of the southwest coast of Mexico.

SURF: Large swells produced by Genevieve are affecting portions of
the southern coast of Mexico and will spread northward along the
southwestern and west-central coast of Mexico to the Baja California
peninsula through Wednesday. These swells are likely to cause
life-threatening surf and rip current conditions. Please consult
products from your local weather office.


NEXT ADVISORY
-------------
Next complete advisory at 300 PM MDT.

$$
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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#211 Postby Yellow Evan » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:07 pm

* GFS version *
* EAST PACIFIC 2020 SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST *
* IR SAT DATA AVAILABLE, OHC AVAILABLE *
* GENIEVE EP122020 08/18/20 18 UTC *

TIME (HR) 0 6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120 132 144 156 168
V (KT) NO LAND 115 121 123 120 117 108 101 91 82 74 65 57 49 41 33 25 18
V (KT) LAND 115 121 123 120 117 108 101 91 82 74 65 57 49 41 33 25 18
V (KT) LGEM 115 120 121 118 113 102 92 82 71 59 49 41 34 29 24 20 17
Storm Type TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP EXTP EXTP

SHEAR (KT) 2 2 6 9 6 4 3 6 7 12 12 16 19 21 22 25 25
SHEAR ADJ (KT) -2 -2 0 0 1 0 6 6 9 6 6 4 5 1 0 -4 -1
SHEAR DIR 213 197 241 240 237 258 214 182 187 180 204 181 200 196 212 201 195
SST (C) 28.5 28.8 29.0 28.6 28.1 27.3 27.1 26.4 25.4 25.0 23.9 23.1 22.4 22.0 21.4 21.1 21.1
POT. INT. (KT) 149 152 154 149 144 135 134 127 117 113 101 93 85 80 73 68 68
200 MB T (C) -52.1 -51.7 -52.2 -52.1 -51.7 -51.4 -50.7 -50.3 -50.1 -49.7 -49.9 -49.9 -49.8 -49.8 -50.2 -50.6 -50.8
200 MB VXT (C) 0.5 0.5 0.8 0.7 0.8 0.9 0.8 0.9 1.0 1.2 1.4 1.0 1.0 1.1 0.9 0.3 0.0
TH_E DEV (C) 8 8 7 6 7 6 6 5 4 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
700-500 MB RH 73 75 73 73 71 65 60 58 59 56 56 51 50 43 37 30 28
MODEL VTX (KT) 25 24 26 25 26 25 28 26 24 22 20 18 16 14 12 10 8
850 MB ENV VOR 37 50 58 49 70 73 66 68 55 47 33 31 45 43 39 29 14
200 MB DIV 89 89 83 74 96 64 38 12 -6 4 2 15 13 0 14 -6 0
700-850 TADV 1 2 0 -3 -3 -4 -1 -5 -5 -3 -1 3 2 3 2 3 3
LAND (KM) 365 393 378 312 255 227 236 226 335 336 379 485 589 588 567 566 602
LAT (DEG N) 18.3 18.9 19.5 20.1 20.7 21.6 22.6 23.6 24.4 25.5 26.9 28.1 29.1 xx.x xx.x xx.x xx.x
LONG(DEG W) 108.4 109.1 109.8 110.3 110.7 111.7 112.7 114.1 115.7 117.2 118.7 120.4 122.1 xxx.x xxx.x xxx.x xxx.x
STM SPEED (KT) 9 9 8 7 7 6 7 8 9 9 10 9 8 6 4 2 1
HEAT CONTENT 12 14 16 14 9 3 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

FORECAST TRACK FROM OFCI INITIAL HEADING/SPEED (DEG/KT):310/ 10 CX,CY: -7/ 6
T-12 MAX WIND: 90 PRESSURE OF STEERING LEVEL (MB): 564 (MEAN=587)
GOES IR BRIGHTNESS TEMP. STD DEV. 50-200 KM RAD: 10.1 (MEAN=14.5)
% GOES IR PIXELS WITH T < -20 C 50-200 KM RAD: 99.0 (MEAN=65.0)
PRELIM RI PROB (DV .GE. 35 KT IN 36 HR): 0.2

INDIVIDUAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO INTENSITY CHANGE
6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120 132 144 156 168
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SAMPLE MEAN CHANGE 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 2. 1. 1. 0. -0. -1. -2. -3. -4. -4. -5.
SST POTENTIAL -1. -1. -2. -4. -11. -20. -29. -37. -45. -52. -58. -62. -66. -70. -76. -82.
VERTICAL SHEAR MAG 0. 0. -0. -0. 1. 4. 6. 7. 7. 7. 6. 4. 2. -1. -3. -4.
VERTICAL SHEAR ADJ 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -0. -1. -1. -1. -0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -0. -0.
VERTICAL SHEAR DIR -0. -0. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 1.
PERSISTENCE 7. 9. 9. 7. 4. 1. -2. -4. -4. -4. -5. -6. -6. -6. -6. -5.
200/250 MB TEMP. -0. -0. -1. -1. -1. -1. 0. 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 5. 6. 7. 7.
THETA_E EXCESS 0. 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. -0. -1. -2. -4. -5. -6. -7. -9. -10.
700-500 MB RH 0. 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -0. -0. -1. -1.
MODEL VTX TENDENCY -0. 0. -0. 1. 0. 3. 0. -2. -5. -8. -10. -12. -13. -14. -14. -14.
850 MB ENV VORTICITY 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -0. -0. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -0.
200 MB DIVERGENCE 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 1. 2. 1. 1. 0. 0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0.
850-700 T ADVEC -0. -0. -0. -0. 0. 0. -0. 0. -0. -0. -0. -0. 0. 0. 0. 0.
ZONAL STORM MOTION 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. 0.
STEERING LEVEL PRES -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0.
DAYS FROM CLIM. PEAK 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 2. 2. 3. 3. 3. 4. 4. 5.
GOES PREDICTORS 0. -0. -1. -1. 0. 1. 2. 3. 3. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 3. 4.
OCEAN HEAT CONTENT 0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -1. -1. -1. -1. -0. -0. 0. 1. 2. 3. 5.
RI POTENTIAL -0. -1. -2. -3. -4. -4. -3. -1. 1. 2. 4. 4. 5. 5. 5. 5.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTAL CHANGE 6. 8. 5. 2. -7. -14. -24. -33. -41. -49. -58. -66. -74. -82. -90. -97.

CURRENT MAX WIND (KT): 115. LAT, LON: 18.3 108.4

** 2020 E. Pacific RI INDEX EP122020 GENIEVE 08/18/20 18 UTC **
(SHIPS-RII PREDICTOR TABLE for 30 KT OR MOREMAXIMUM WIND INCREASE IN NEXT 24-h)

Predictor Value RI Predictor Range Scaled Value(0-1) % Contribution
POT = MPI-VMAX (KT) : 34.8 40.5 to 149.3 0.00 0.0
12 HR PERSISTENCE (KT) : 25.0 -22.0 to 44.0 0.71 999.0
850-200 MB SHEAR (KT) : 5.2 19.6 to 1.4 0.79 999.0
D200 (10**7s-1) : 86.2 -33.0 to 160.6 0.62 999.0
MAXIMUM WIND (KT) : 115.0 22.5 to 132.0 0.23 999.0
STD DEV OF IR BR TEMP : 10.1 37.8 to 2.1 0.78 999.0
HEAT CONTENT (KJ/CM2) : 13.0 2.7 to 106.7 0.10 999.0
BL DRY-AIR FLUX (W/M2) : 264.8 800.8 to -82.5 0.61 999.0
%area of TPW <45 mm upshear : 0.0 56.6 to 0.0 1.00 999.0
2nd PC OF IR BR TEMP : 0.7 2.2 to -1.9 0.36 999.0

SHIPS Prob RI for 20kt/ 12hr RI threshold= 21% is 3.4 times climatological mean ( 6.3%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 25kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 26% is 2.0 times climatological mean (12.6%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 30kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times climatological mean ( 8.6%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 35kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times climatological mean ( 6.2%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 40kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times climatological mean ( 4.2%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 45kt/ 36hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times climatological mean ( 6.7%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 55kt/ 48hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times climatological mean ( 5.9%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 65kt/ 72hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times climatological mean ( 4.7%)

Matrix of RI probabilities
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RI (kt / h) | 20/12 | 25/24 | 30/24 | 35/24 | 40/24 | 45/36 | 55/48 |65/72
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SHIPS-RII: 21.4% 25.7% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0%
Logistic: 8.2% 2.7% 1.9% 1.1% 0.3% 0.4% 0.1% 0.0%
Bayesian: 3.8% 0.3% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0%
Consensus: 11.2% 9.5% 0.6% 0.4% 0.1% 0.1% 0.0% 0.0%
DTOPS: 10.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0%

## ANNULAR HURRICANE INDEX (AHI) EP122020 GENIEVE 08/18/20 18 UTC ##
## PASSED SCREENING STEP, MIGHT BE ANNULAR, CALCULATE AHI FROM DISCRIMINANT ANALYSIS ##
## AHI= 1 (AHI OF 100 IS BEST FIT TO ANN. STRUC., 1 IS MARGINAL, 0 IS NOT ANNULAR) ##
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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#212 Postby aspen » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:07 pm

Genevieve remains at 115 kt/950 mbar for the 18z best track update, but it looks like convection is becoming a little deeper. I think Genevieve ended up with such a warm CDO because of poor timing; convection usually warms somewhat when an eye pops out (Norman, Rosa, and Douglas are just some examples), and for Genevieve, this happened as the sun was rising and diurnal minimum was approaching.
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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#213 Postby Yellow Evan » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:08 pm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 18 AUG 2020 Time : 182020 UTC
Lat : 18:27:35 N Lon : 108:28:12 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
6.0 / 947.2mb/115.0kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
5.5 5.6 5.6

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR : 26 km

Center Temp : +11.7C Cloud Region Temp : -57.3C

Scene Type : EYE
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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#214 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:57 pm

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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#215 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:58 pm

19:51Z
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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#216 Postby gatorcane » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:00 pm

tolakram wrote:19:51Z
https://i.imgur.com/WgoPtkF.png


Great image. What a hurricane that is for sure, the EPAC surely delivered this time
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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#217 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:42 pm

Hurricane Genevieve Discussion Number 10
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL EP122020
Issued by the NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
300 PM MDT Tue Aug 18 2020

Genevieve remains an impressive hurricane. Geostationary satellite
and microwave images show a well organized inner core with a nearly
circular eye and pronounced outer bands in most quadrants.
However, just recently, there has been evidence of a few dry slots
forming between the inner core and outer bands. An average of the
latest subjective and objective satellite intensity estimates
supports holding the initial intensity steady at 115 kt.

The hurricane still has another day or so over warm SSTs and in
favorable atmospheric conditions, so Genevieve should maintain its
intensity or perhaps strengthen a little during that time period.
After that time, however, progressively cooler waters, drier air,
and an increase in wind shear should cause a rapid decay of the
cyclone. Genevieve will likely become post-tropical in 4 to 5 days
when it is expected to be over SSTs of 22-23 C. The NHC intensity
forecast lies near the high end of the guidance for the first day
or so, and then falls in line with the various consensus aids after
that.

Genevieve is moving a little slower to the northwest, with the
latest initial motion estimated to be 310/10 kt. A slightly slower
northwestward motion is expected during the next day or so, taking
the core of the hurricane just west of the southern Baja California
peninsula during that time. The models have shifted to the right
this cycle, closer to the Baja coast, and the NHC forecast follows
this trend. Thereafter, a building mid-level ridge should cause
Genevieve to turn slightly to the left, away from the Baja coast.
Due to the eastward shift in the track forecast, the government of
Mexico has extended the Tropical Storm Warning and Watch northward
on the west coast of the Baja California peninsula.

Key Messages:

1. The center of Genevieve is forecast to move just west of the Baja
California peninsula, but it is still expected to cause tropical
storm conditions across portions of southern Baja California Sur.
These conditions are expected to begin Wednesday afternoon and
could spread northwestward through Thursday.

2. Large swells generated by Genevieve are affecting portions of the
coast of southern Mexico and will spread northward along the coast
of Mexico to the Baja California peninsula by Wednesday.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 18/2100Z 18.7N 108.7W 115 KT 130 MPH
12H 19/0600Z 19.7N 109.6W 120 KT 140 MPH
24H 19/1800Z 20.9N 110.4W 115 KT 130 MPH
36H 20/0600Z 21.8N 111.3W 95 KT 110 MPH
48H 20/1800Z 22.7N 112.4W 80 KT 90 MPH
60H 21/0600Z 23.4N 113.6W 70 KT 80 MPH
72H 21/1800Z 24.4N 115.1W 60 KT 70 MPH
96H 22/1800Z 26.6N 118.4W 45 KT 50 MPH
120H 23/1800Z 28.9N 121.5W 30 KT 35 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW

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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#218 Postby aspen » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:05 pm

Genevieve’s CDO is still on the warm side, but it’s had incredible symmetry and definition throughout the day, so it’s possible recon could’ve found 120-125 kt if they flew in today. 17z microwave still shows no signs of an EWRC coming in. Maybe the dry air has been eroding any outer eyewall that is trying to form, giving Genevieve a chance to maintain its structure until the sun sets and convection can cool.
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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#219 Postby Yellow Evan » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:21 pm

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Re: EPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#220 Postby supercane4867 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:22 pm

I feel like this one is going to be downgraded post season. I could be wrong tho.
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