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Re: EPAC: MARIE - Hurricane

#61 Postby cycloneye » Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:15 am

Hurricane Marie Discussion Number 10
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL EP182020
800 AM PDT Thu Oct 01 2020

Marie has continued to become better organized this morning. An
AMSR image from just after 09Z showed a closed mid-level eyewall,
and conventional satellite imagery shows an increasingly symmetric
cloud pattern with very cold cloud tops, colder than -80C, around
the center. The current intensity estimate is set at 90 kt in
agreement with Dvorak classifications from both TAFB and SAB.
Marie is moving over SSTs warmer than 28 deg C and in a moist,
low-shear atmospheric environment. The SHIPS guidance still shows
a significant probability of rapid intensification through tonight,
so Marie is likely to become a major hurricane quite soon. The
official forecast is a little above the latest corrected model
consensus. In a couple of days, the hurricane should be crossing
the SST gradient and encountering cooler waters, so a weakening
trend is anticipated to be underway within 48 hours.

The estimated initial motion is west-northwestward, or 285/15 kt.
For the next couple of days, Marie should continue to move along
the southern periphery of a mid-tropospheric ridge associated with
a high pressure system centered over California. A slight turn to
the right with some deceleration is expected during the forecast
period due to a weakness in the ridge near 130W longitude. By the
end of the period, Marie is likely to turn toward the northwest
while it moves through this weakness. The official track forecast
lies very close to the latest multi-model consensus, TVCE,
prediction.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 01/1500Z 15.2N 119.5W 90 KT 105 MPH
12H 02/0000Z 15.9N 121.7W 110 KT 125 MPH
24H 02/1200Z 16.8N 124.1W 120 KT 140 MPH
36H 03/0000Z 17.8N 126.2W 120 KT 140 MPH
48H 03/1200Z 18.8N 127.9W 105 KT 120 MPH
60H 04/0000Z 19.6N 129.3W 90 KT 105 MPH
72H 04/1200Z 20.4N 130.7W 75 KT 85 MPH
96H 05/1200Z 21.7N 133.7W 60 KT 70 MPH
120H 06/1200Z 23.8N 136.2W 40 KT 45 MPH

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Re: EPAC: MARIE - Hurricane

#62 Postby aspen » Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:38 am

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Re: EPAC: MARIE - Hurricane

#63 Postby aspen » Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:09 pm

I think Marie ate some dry air. Part of the CDO has warmed, and the eye is no longer clearing as well as it used to be.
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Re: EPAC: MARIE - Hurricane

#64 Postby ElectricStorm » Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:52 pm

18E MARIE 201001 1800 14.9N 120.3W EPAC 90 973
It does appear that intensification has halted for now. Still should become a major.
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Re: EPAC: MARIE - Hurricane

#65 Postby ElectricStorm » Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:58 pm

Looks to be making a rebound now
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Re: EPAC: MARIE - Hurricane

#66 Postby aspen » Thu Oct 01, 2020 2:20 pm

Marie is not nearly as impressive as it was before on IR, likely due to a combination of diurnal minimum and dry air. However, it's greatly improved on visible imagery, with an eye starting to clear. Assuming it's able to hold off from an EWRC for another 12+ hours, it could get a significant boost from Dmax. I'm thinking it could get up to 130-135 kt.
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Re: EPAC: MARIE - Hurricane

#67 Postby aspen » Thu Oct 01, 2020 2:55 pm

17z microwave pass shows a weaker N eyewall, probably due to dry air.
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Re: EPAC: MARIE - Hurricane

#68 Postby cycloneye » Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:45 pm

Hurricane Marie Discussion Number 11
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL EP182020
200 PM PDT Thu Oct 01 2020

An eye has formed in visible and infrared satellite imagery since
the issuance of the previous advisory, and the surrounding
convection continues to have cold cloud tops (as cold as -83C). The
width of the coldest tops were a little thin on the southwest
side at 1800 UTC, and because of this, subjective and objective
intensity estimates were still 90 kt. Since that time, the eye has
become more distinct and the convection is becoming more symmetric
around the eye, and the initial intensity is therefore set at 95 kt.

Marie's initial position has been adjusted to the south just a bit
now that the center is more apparent with the eye formation. This
yields a current westward motion of 280/14 kt. The atmospheric
features responsible for steering Marie during the forecast period
will be a mid-tropospheric ridge centered over the southwestern
United States and a mid- to upper-level low located to the west
over the Pacific. The interplay between these features is likely
to cause some wiggles in Marie's future track, but for the most
part the hurricane will be moving west-northwestward or
northwestward through day 5. The spread in the guidance increases
toward the end of the forecast period, with the GFS turning more
northward and the ECMWF maintaining a west-northwestward motion.
The other deterministic models are in between these two
solutions, clustered very close to the various multi-model
consensus aids, and that is where the NHC forecast also lies for
this advisory.

The environment appears conducive for this phase of rapid
intensification to continue, at least for the next 24 hours.
Deep-layer shear is just about to decrease to 10 kt or less, and
Marie will remain over waters of high ocean heat content for the
next 24-36 hours. The intensity guidance decreased a bit on this
cycle, which seems odd given the ongoing intensification trend and
the favorable environmental conditions. The SHIPS model does still
show that the chance for rapid intensification to continue is 3 to
5 times higher than the climatological mean, and therefore the NHC
intensity forecast maintains continuity from the previous advisory,
showing a peak intensity of 120 kt. This forecast is above the
highest intensity models by about 10-15 kt. Weakening is still
anticipated, particularly after 48 hours, due to Marie moving over
cooler waters and being affected by increasing southwesterly shear.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 01/2100Z 15.1N 120.9W 95 KT 110 MPH
12H 02/0600Z 15.8N 122.8W 115 KT 130 MPH
24H 02/1800Z 16.7N 125.0W 120 KT 140 MPH
36H 03/0600Z 17.8N 126.8W 115 KT 130 MPH
48H 03/1800Z 18.8N 128.2W 100 KT 115 MPH
60H 04/0600Z 19.7N 129.4W 85 KT 100 MPH
72H 04/1800Z 20.3N 130.9W 70 KT 80 MPH
96H 05/1800Z 21.4N 133.9W 55 KT 65 MPH
120H 06/1800Z 23.0N 136.3W 35 KT 40 MPH

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Re: EPAC: MARIE - Hurricane

#69 Postby aspen » Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:50 pm

Extremely deep convection is firing once again and trying to expand around the eye. Marie is likely a 100-105 kt major by now.
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Re: EPAC: MARIE - Hurricane

#70 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:53 pm

17z GMI pass:
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AMSR2 pass will be next. Hope it doesn't miss.
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Re: EPAC: MARIE - Hurricane

#71 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:55 pm

I'm surprised but pleased that we're seeing a borderline major hurricane this far west in a La Nina along with cloud tops this cool CDG appearing within the gray shading. Could peak as a top end Cat.4 low end Cat.5 if dry air can stay out (latter is a very tall task) and the super cold convection can wrap around a warm eye.
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Re: EPAC: MARIE - Hurricane

#72 Postby bob rulz » Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:34 pm

Marie is looking great this evening. Would be surprised if I don't wake up to a cat 4 tomorrow morning.
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Re: EPAC: MARIE - Hurricane

#73 Postby aspen » Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:46 pm

Looks like an EWRC is going to start soon and keep this from achieving maximum possible intensity.
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Re: EPAC: MARIE - Hurricane

#74 Postby aspen » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:08 pm

A very impressive hurricane in a season where impressive fish storms have been hard to come by. I'm hoping that outer eyewall holds off enough for this to become a Cat 4.
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#75 Postby Yellow Evan » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:15 pm

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WMG eye now. CDO slowly smoothing out. This should reach Cat 4 and possibly become the strongest storm of the season overnight based on how it's going right now.
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Re: EPAC: MARIE - Hurricane

#76 Postby Yellow Evan » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:16 pm

TXPZ21 KNES 012353
TCSENP

A. 18E (MARIE)

B. 01/2330Z

C. 15.4N

D. 121.4W

E. ONE/GOES-W

F. T5.5/5.5

G. IR/EIR/VIS

H. REMARKS...OW EYE SURROUNDED BY BLACK AND EMBEDDED IN LG YIELDS DT
OF 5.5 INCLUDING +0.5 EYE-ADJ. MET IS 5.0. PT IS 5.5. FT IS BASED ON DT.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

NIL


...JLEVINE
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Re: EPAC: MARIE - Hurricane

#77 Postby cheezyWXguy » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:16 pm

aspen wrote:Looks like an EWRC is going to start soon and keep this from achieving maximum possible intensity.
https://rammb-data.cira.colostate.edu/tc_realtime/products/storms/2020ep18/amsusr89/2020ep18_amsusr89_202010012021.gif

Was noticing that on ir. Tonight’s the night to get that strengthening going, or else it’ll lose its chance at anything above low end 4
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Re: EPAC: MARIE - Hurricane

#78 Postby Yellow Evan » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:17 pm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 01 OCT 2020 Time : 235031 UTC
Lat : 15:23:24 N Lon : 121:30:00 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
6.2 / 944.5mb/119.8kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
6.2 6.3 6.4

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR : 14 km

Center Temp : +10.3C Cloud Region Temp : -69.4C

Scene Type : EYE
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Re: EPAC: MARIE - Hurricane

#79 Postby aspen » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:49 pm

Up to 105kt/961mb. Somehow, the EPac has produced more majors than the Atlantic despite a La Niña (although I’m pretty sure that’ll change in the next few weeks).
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#80 Postby Yellow Evan » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:56 pm

EP, 18, 2020100200, , BEST, 0, 154N, 1215W, 105, 961, HU, 34, NEQ, 70, 110, 50, 70, 1010, 420, 15, 0, 0, E, 0, , 0, 0, MARIE, D, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 033,
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