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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

#201 Postby chaser1 » Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:32 am

Given that Gamma seems tenuously close to landfall I think we are seeking it's peak intensity right now. Unless a due north track occurs for the next few hours one would think we'd start seeing some weakening within the next 2-3 hours. It's just fascinating how 25-75 miles play's such an integral part in whether a storm weakens just enough for dry air to be entrained along with the typical weakening that occurs with landfalling hurricanes, verses RI that otherwise could have seen Gamma easily reach Cat 2 intensity and more likely neutralize any minimal entrainment of dryer air. What's even more interesting is how such a small distance in miles not only determines Gamma's location and intensity, but that outcome is likely the single greatest contributing interplay that will determine whether 92L remains a strong sheared tropical disturbance or a Cat 3 hurricane (as some intensity models predict).
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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

#202 Postby chaser1 » Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:34 am

underthwx wrote:Please pardon my off gamma topic question...how many more storm names are there left on the list?.....what if all the names are used up....what happens then?......I could gts to get an a answer....but that's no fun .....thanks


Following Gamma, will be the next name in the Greek alphabet which will be Delta. Fortunately, there's a good number of remaining Greek names to exhaust before running out.
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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

#204 Postby aspen » Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:06 pm

I hope recon will at least be able to sample the offshore half of the wind field.
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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

#205 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:14 pm

recon left.. so we will never know.

but it very likely was a hurricane.
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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

#206 Postby aspen » Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:14 pm

aspen wrote:I hope recon will at least be able to sample the offshore half of the wind field.

And they’re heading back now that Gamma has made landfall. Darn.
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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

#207 Postby underthwx » Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:18 pm

chaser1 wrote:
underthwx wrote:Please pardon my off gamma topic question...how many more storm names are there left on the list?.....what if all the names are used up....what happens then?......I could gts to get an a answer....but that's no fun .....thanks


Following Gamma, will be the next name in the Greek alphabet which will be Delta. Fortunately, there's a good number of remaining Greek names to exhaust before running out.


Thanks....
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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

#208 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:21 pm

This has the making of a post-season upgrade.
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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

#209 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:22 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:This has the making of a post-season upgrade.


have to add it too the growing list.. lol
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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

#210 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:24 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:This has the making of a post-season upgrade.


have to add it too the growing list.. lol


The storm counts may stay the same, but Nana may be swapped in status for Gamma - it was definitely more of a hurricane than Nana was.
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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

#211 Postby MarioProtVI » Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:37 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:This has the making of a post-season upgrade.


have to add it too the growing list.. lol


The storm counts may stay the same, but Nana may be swapped in status for Gamma - it was definitely more of a hurricane than Nana was.


NHC almost never downgrades from a hurricane to a TS in post - they may have data to justify Nana as a hurricane that we don’t have access to.
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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

#212 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:37 pm

It’s trying to clear out an eye on vis over land. No chance this was only a tropical storm
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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

#213 Postby aspen » Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:51 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:It’s trying to clear out an eye on vis over land.

Of course it is. It wouldn’t be a month of 2020 without a tropical cyclone behaving weirdly. Maybe this will be enough for an upgrade at 18z.
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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

#214 Postby MarioProtVI » Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:54 pm

aspen wrote:
cheezyWXguy wrote:It’s trying to clear out an eye on vis over land.

Of course it is. It wouldn’t be a month of 2020 without a tropical cyclone behaving weirdly. Maybe this will be enough for an upgrade at 18z.

NHC doesn’t seem to think so. Remains 70 mph at 1pm CDT.
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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

#215 Postby NXStumpy_Robothing » Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:14 pm

Reminds me a bit of Fay 2008 with the clearing of an eye over land.

I wish recon hadn't turned around but I understand why they did so. Now, it's a matter of seeing whether Gamma can maintain itself as it slowly treks NW over land and what sort of intensity/structure it has when it leaves land for the Gulf.
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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

#216 Postby GCANE » Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:14 pm

An updated satellite sounding just came in.
Appears that a deep cold pool is developing north of the CoC, near Cancun.
Left of the red vertical line in the bottom image.

Need to watch if it respins up off of the cold pool.
A shear gradient and a dry-line could enhance convection from the cold pool.
Stay tuned.

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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

#217 Postby EquusStorm » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:17 pm

Boy this happened in a hurry. Imagine if this was a couple hundred miles east; Roxanne part two.
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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

#218 Postby tailgater » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:21 pm

Just catching up, wow. Does look like it’s sucking in some dry air already, I don’t see it making Hurricane strength when it gets over water again but who knows.
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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

#219 Postby EquusStorm » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:40 pm

What a classic appearance and cold cloud tops a few hours ago though. This one was definitely not a name waster.
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Re: ATL: GAMMA - Tropical Storm

#220 Postby MGC » Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:34 pm

Gamma still looks pretty good despite being over the Yucatan all day. Might intensify once over the GOM......MGC
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