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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#541 Postby tolakram » Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:17 am

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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#542 Postby Red eye » Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:46 am



These models are frustrating this year. We literally were making plans to leave yesterday when I got home from work. And start looking at 00z runs which moved storm to the East just enough....then....euro to la/tx border. And the most reliable model, HWRF, this year( in my opinion) has a direct hit on crowley 72 hours or less before landfall. 20 miles makes a difference with this storm. The atchafalaya basin would be best case scenario for this storm.
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#543 Postby aspen » Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:07 am

06z HWRF shows Delta developing an eye later tonight. Could land interaction help tighten up the core a bit?
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#544 Postby SoupBone » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:34 am

So the HWRF is west again. How much further west will the models go?
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#545 Postby Shawee » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:37 am

kevin wrote:I have a bad feeling that these west shifts will continue and Delta might make landfall near Lake Charles, ravaging the exact same region that had to withstand Laura earlier this season. I guess we'll have a better handle on the track of Delta once it clears Yucatan.

I'm thinking more the NHC path than than that far west at this point. Like you said, once it clears the Yucatan and those effects on storm strength. we should have a better read; i.e. more certainty. More weakening could actually shift some of the models east perhaps?
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#546 Postby Steve » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:42 am

NAM 12km - Vemilion Bay, 979, Friday afternoon.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 0712&fh=54
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#547 Postby Wx_Warrior » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:55 am

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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#548 Postby Nederlander » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:58 am



Shift back west for the NHC track. I guess they’re still giving some level of creedence to the euro, but I feel the euro will be caving soon more to the East, just like with it did with Laura.
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#549 Postby Red eye » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:59 am

Big shift west (40 miles or so) with NHC 10:00 update. Landfall at Rockefeller Refuge. This just looks worse and worse for us, but better for Lafayette and Baton Rouge.
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#550 Postby AerospaceEng » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:59 am

Pretty huge shift west from NHC.
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#551 Postby aspen » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:10 am

The 06z HWRF has Delta travelling through a pocket of 28-29C SSTs in the Gulf, right around where MPIs get down to 910-920 mbar. Its predicted 15z position for Delta is pretty close to where it actually is.
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Delta will be in the high SST pocket midday tomorrow, starting as early as tonight before exiting Thursday afternoon.
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Throughout the day Friday, Delta will be progressing over cooler 25-27C SSTs and likely start to weaken significantly again.
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#552 Postby Wx_Warrior » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:12 am

Per the NHC discussion: The new forecast track lies near or just left of the TVCA multi-model consensus and a little right of the HFIP corrected consensus aid, again close to the GFS, GFS ensemble mean, and UKMet models.

*Bostwick said he believes NHC is too far east. He thinks east of Cameron.

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Shift back west for the NHC track. I guess they’re still giving some level of creedence to the euro, but I feel the euro will be caving soon more to the East, just like with it did with Laura.
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#553 Postby aspen » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:17 am

Simulated IR imagery and humidity/moisture forecasts from the 06z HWRF both show RI. Like with the position estimate, the predicted IR appearance of Delta around this time is just about spot-on.
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#554 Postby Wx_Warrior » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:18 am

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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#555 Postby LowerAlabamaTider » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:22 am



Geeez . . . That is basically right where Laura came ashore :cry:
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#556 Postby Stormcenter » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:41 am

It’s Oct. and I personally don’t see Delta going that
far west as the NHC has it. Just my opinion.
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#557 Postby Wx_Warrior » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:43 am

The models sure are sniffing west out.

Stormcenter wrote:It’s Oct. and I personally don’t see Delta going that
far west as the NHC has it. Just my opinion.
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#558 Postby HurricaneBrain » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:43 am

It's also 2020..
Stormcenter wrote:It’s Oct. and I personally don’t see Delta going that
far west as the NHC has it. Just my opinion.
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#559 Postby Stormcenter » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:52 am

Just remember how well the models did with Sally.....
enough said.
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#560 Postby p1nheadlarry » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:54 am

AerospaceEng wrote:Pretty huge shift west from NHC.


The 48 hr point moved 84 nm. Decent shift west from last night to early this morning, but just ever so slightly west as of 10 CDT.

7AM https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2020/DELTA_graphics.php?product=5day_cone_with_line
10AM https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at1+shtml/151609.shtml?cone#contents
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