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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#101 Postby Keldeo1997 » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:40 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#102 Postby SoupBone » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:40 pm

CMC is almost right on top of where the GFS just put it.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#103 Postby Craters » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:41 pm

Weather Dude wrote:HMON running. Let's see what it's got. Looks like HWRF is about to run also

Oh, great. Here comes a Cat 7 that splits in the middle of the GOM and heads for Galveston and New Orleans as two Cat 6 Fujiwhara demons...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#104 Postby IcyTundra » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:42 pm

00Z CMC is into SW Louisiana like the 00Z GFS although it did go initially further north than the GFS going over the Western Tip of Cuba while the GFS had it threading the needle through the Yucatan Channel. Interesting that both end up in the same location.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#105 Postby Craters » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:44 pm

After all these years, does the GFS still have problems with ridging? I was under the impression (at least last year) that it was getting better at handling ridges.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#106 Postby IcyTundra » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:44 pm

Craters wrote:After all these years, does the GFS still underestimate ridging? I was under the impression (at least last year) that it was getting better at handling ridges.


Not 100% sure but I heard it still has a slight bias not as bad as it used to be but still there.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#107 Postby Clearcloudz » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:45 pm

00 GEFS center positions all over the place which has huge implications where the storm finally ends up.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#108 Postby IcyTundra » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:46 pm

Clearcloudz wrote:00 GEFS center positions all over the place which has huge implications where the storm finally ends up.

https://i.imgur.com/jg05Fpz.png


Looks like the operational GFS is on the eastern end of the ensemble spread.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#109 Postby SoupBone » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:47 pm

Clearcloudz wrote:00 GEFS center positions all over the place which has huge implications where the storm finally ends up.

https://i.imgur.com/jg05Fpz.png



Yep, hence why wxman thinks we're all crazy (not really). :lol:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#110 Postby grapealcoholic » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:48 pm

Looking at 0z operationals tonight: hm nice consolidation

And then ensemble: put the entire gulf coast under a watch
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#111 Postby Keldeo1997 » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:49 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#112 Postby IcyTundra » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:49 pm

Probably not the best idea, but I guess I am going to stay up for the 0Z Euro with the way the models have been trending this cycle it will probably show a Pensacola landfall.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#113 Postby Clearcloudz » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:51 pm

18Z ECENS ensembles shows members showing up at everyone's door.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#114 Postby Craters » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:52 pm

Clearcloudz wrote:00 GEFS center positions all over the place which has huge implications where the storm finally ends up.

https://i.imgur.com/jg05Fpz.png

Okay -- I think I'm missing something here. (Not because of you, Clearcloudz.) NOAA says that the GEFS has 21 members {https://registry.opendata.aws/noaa-gefs/). I'm counting at least 36 tracks in that plot. Can anybody clarify what we're seeing there, maybe?

Thanks!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#115 Postby IcyTundra » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:53 pm

Craters wrote:
Clearcloudz wrote:00 GEFS center positions all over the place which has huge implications where the storm finally ends up.

https://i.imgur.com/jg05Fpz.png

Okay -- I think I'm missing something here. (Not because of you, Clearcloudz.) NOAA says that the GEFS has 21 members {https://registry.opendata.aws/noaa-gefs/). I'm counting at least 36 tracks in that plot. Can anybody clarify what we're seeing there, maybe?

Thanks!


GEFS got updated earlier this year I think and now has 30 something ensemble members.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#116 Postby SoupBone » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:54 pm

The GEFS ensembles still have a bunch of members even near the Mexican coast. Basically, from central Mexico all the way to Central Louisiana.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#117 Postby Keldeo1997 » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:54 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#118 Postby Craters » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:55 pm

Clearcloudz wrote:18Z ECENS ensembles shows members showing up at everyone's door.

https://i.imgur.com/dhPAqtR.png

Notice how (relatively) weak they all are close to the coast?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#119 Postby Craters » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:56 pm

IcyTundra wrote:
Craters wrote:
Clearcloudz wrote:00 GEFS center positions all over the place which has huge implications where the storm finally ends up.

https://i.imgur.com/jg05Fpz.png

Okay -- I think I'm missing something here. (Not because of you, Clearcloudz.) NOAA says that the GEFS has 21 members {https://registry.opendata.aws/noaa-gefs/). I'm counting at least 36 tracks in that plot. Can anybody clarify what we're seeing there, maybe?

Thanks!


GEFS got updated earlier this year I think and now has 30 something ensemble members.

Thanks, IcyTundra. I guess they might want to update their website...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#120 Postby IcyTundra » Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:03 am

00Z UKMET hasn't been posted yet but it has a pretty strong system due east of South Padre Island. Looks like it is starting to go north on the last couple frames of the run though.
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