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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#1241 Postby Ubuntwo » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:12 pm

skyline385 wrote:Raw T dropped to 5.5

ARCHER positioning no longer finding the eye, since Sam is well northeast of forecast. Does not matter much with the plane inbound.
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#1242 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:12 pm

skyline385 wrote:Raw T dropped to 5.5


 https://twitter.com/splillo/status/1442207867176513537


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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#1243 Postby kevin » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:14 pm

I'm back and Sam has degraded a bit on IR. However, it still looks very healthy and looking at the floater it seems the break in the SSW region is slowly filling in again. A while ago all we wanted was for recon to arrive asap, but now I think it's good that it's still got 2 hours to go since it'll give Sam time to repair its Wring.
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#1244 Postby kevin » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:15 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
skyline385 wrote:Raw T dropped to 5.5


https://twitter.com/splillo/status/1442207867176513537


Lol that has to be the worst eye location estimate I've ever seen :lol:.
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#1245 Postby Zonacane » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:17 pm

Not sure Sam is having any actual issues. It could just be a satellite issue
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#1246 Postby skyline385 » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:18 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
skyline385 wrote:Raw T dropped to 5.5


https://twitter.com/splillo/status/1442207867176513537


Looks like it messed up again, dropped Raw T to 5.0

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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#1247 Postby pgoss11 » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:20 pm

skyline385 wrote:
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
skyline385 wrote:Raw T dropped to 5.5


https://twitter.com/splillo/status/1442207867176513537


Looks like it messed up again, dropped Raw T to 5.0

https://i.imgur.com/a8AKesN.png


Is is possible Sam is doing a loop?
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#1248 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:21 pm

Notice how calm the winds are where the Hurricane hunters are flying! 1 knot consistently.
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#1249 Postby Iceresistance » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:22 pm

pgoss11 wrote:
skyline385 wrote:


Looks like it messed up again, dropped Raw T to 5.0

https://i.imgur.com/a8AKesN.png


Is is possible Sam is doing a loop?


That's what I was thinking too
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#1250 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:22 pm

Dont worry, wait for the plane as it will nail the dead center of it. :D
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#1251 Postby kevin » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:22 pm

I'm not sure if what we're seeing on IR is actual degradation, might indeed be some satellite artifacts due to the slanted view. Visible and sandwich still look picture-perfect.

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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#1252 Postby ThetaE » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:30 pm

Something to keep in mind since Sam appears to be drifting well right of track and wobbling/moving slowly: even if SSTs/OHC appear lower on such a trajectory, there is actually a sizable mixed layer that would help buffer upwelling problems.

 https://twitter.com/DrKimWood/status/1442218359563636742


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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#1253 Postby bob rulz » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:31 pm

There's no sign of an EWRC yet right? I'm becoming more optimistic that recon will not miss the peak. Just based on eye test I would say this is 135kt at minimum, but I wouldn't be shocked if recon finds a cat 5.
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#1254 Postby skyline385 » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:33 pm

bob rulz wrote:There's no sign of an EWRC yet right? I'm becoming more optimistic that recon will not miss the peak. Just based on eye test I would say this is 135kt at minimum, but I wouldn't be shocked if recon finds a cat 5.


No signs of an outer eyewall from the passes so far, just some bands which eventually will wrap around but not yet...
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#1255 Postby kevin » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:34 pm

bob rulz wrote:There's no sign of an EWRC yet right? I'm becoming more optimistic that recon will not miss the peak. Just based on eye test I would say this is 135kt at minimum, but I wouldn't be shocked if recon finds a cat 5.


Indeed an EWRC seems (hoping I don't jinx it yet) very unlikely before recon arrives since there's no sign of it whatsoever right now. IR is fluctuating a bit, but already seems to be recovering. Technically, Sam might've looked a bit better earlier today but I still think it's currently stronger than yesterday (so also 135 kt minimum for me).
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#1256 Postby aspen » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:37 pm

Wow, the 5pm discussion actually notes the possibility of Sam becoming a Cat 5.
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#1257 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:42 pm

aspen wrote:Wow, the 5pm discussion actually notes the possibility of Sam becoming a Cat 5.


Latto is pretty bullish. Remember he is why Lorenzo was upgraded into a Category 5.
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#1258 Postby NXStumpy_Robothing » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:44 pm

Looks like the poorly timed recon missions that have plagued the past couple of years is likely to continue.

 https://twitter.com/AndyHazelton/status/1442227846513037315


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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#1259 Postby Teban54 » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:46 pm

Without any prior knowledge you might think this indicates an EWRC, although in this case it's probably just visual:
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#1260 Postby SconnieCane » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:58 pm

That 5 PM advisory though...five straight days AOA 110kt on top of what has already occurred. Hello ACE. :eek:
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