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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#201 Postby aspen » Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:27 am

Going OTS this run it seems, assuming a massive ridge doesn’t suddenly build back in. The track is between that of the Euro and the prior run, and should allow for another 25-35+ ACE major.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#202 Postby Blown Away » Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:30 am

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12z GFS trending SW with each run, almost looks like the hand of high pressure pushing 98L towards the Caribbean... :D
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#203 Postby AutoPenalti » Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:30 am

GFS actually has Peter lingering which causes an opening.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#204 Postby SFLcane » Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:32 am

12z euro in a bit be like…

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#205 Postby AutoPenalti » Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:34 am

That trough solution within one run is wacky.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#206 Postby grapealcoholic » Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:35 am

Actually this run might still get close to the US depending on how it pivots around the trough. A weaker a trough and a little more ridging, however..
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#207 Postby Blown Away » Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:35 am

AutoPenalti wrote:GFS actually has Peter lingering which causes an opening.


Yeah, but that lingering Peter effect is weakening over past few runs. Beyond 120 hours I'm not buying any stout high pressure predictions in the Atlantic that will drive a system into the CONUS because that trough will be there like it has been most of the active season.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#208 Postby AutoPenalti » Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:36 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#209 Postby blp » Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:37 am

Blown Away wrote:https://i.imgur.com/kIIHGhl.gif
12z GFS trending SW with each run, almost looks like the hand of high pressure pushing 98L towards the Caribbean... :D


Definitely trending toward SW and if you notice the position of the Low it is no longer over the east coast it is north and passing the system with ridge building in. This is different setup than previous runs.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#210 Postby grapealcoholic » Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:38 am


The cutoff trough just seems like GFS doing GFS things with too much modeled convection perhaps
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#211 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:39 am

Not even close on the 12Z GFS:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#212 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:44 am

gatorcane wrote:Not even close on the 12Z GFS:

https://i.postimg.cc/htNTDgJn/gfs-z500a-Norm-atl-fh84-222.gif

Do you see that ridging over the Conus though? Just a small change in that scenario would mean that storm would beeline for the Conus.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#213 Postby grapealcoholic » Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:45 am

Check out how far south the next two waves are :eek:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#214 Postby skyline385 » Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:47 am

grapealcoholic wrote:Check out how far south the next two waves are :eek:

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Waves entering the Caribbean right in time for October...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#215 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:50 am

Very clear trend west with the last few GFS runs.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#216 Postby SFLcane » Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:55 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#217 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:57 am

12Z CMC with a much stronger trough off the east coast than the 00Z but it does get the storm closer to the islands than the GFS:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#218 Postby skyline385 » Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:59 am

There is a huge patch of 30C waters East of the leeward islands. A system entering through there like some of the Euro ensembles is going to blow up...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#219 Postby blp » Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:00 pm

TVCN shifted SW as well.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#220 Postby blp » Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:05 pm

gatorcane wrote:12Z CMC with a much stronger trough off the east coast than the 00Z but it does get the storm closer to the islands than the GFS:

https://i.postimg.cc/ZRzdtcWx/gem-z500a-Norm-atl-fh72-216.gif


The low appears to cut off. Not the type of setup with a digging trough for a quick recurve. This one may linger and get left behind. This forecast seems more tricky that than the last couple of storms.
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