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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2061 Postby tropicwatch » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:13 am

Kohlecane wrote:judging by the Recon fixes and IR overlay it has definitely jumped more N the last 2 hours. Also I'm not sure if Recon is staying, looked like they were headed back to the center then turned, when is the next flight take off?


Currently scheduled for NOAA2 3 and AF 3:45pm central time. Subject to change I am sure.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2062 Postby Syx6sic » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:16 am

kevin wrote:I know it's easy to say when recon is leaving, but it really looks like Ida is taking off right now. After the unexpected high central pressure, at least to me (I guess I was expecting low 970s instead of 980s), I feel reluctant to make any new bets but it's bound to deepen at some point so I still think the next recon will find a significantly stronger storm.

yea if i had to guess they might be in for a surprise on the next recon. i know it does happen to them quite a bit but i think they will find ida is going to get some more power by the next recon
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2063 Postby Comradez » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:17 am

Ida starting to get more self-sustaining convection wrapping all the way around the center. It won't really be able to clear out the eye until the pulsing hot towers are replaced by an explosive ring of convection going all the way around into a dense CDO. Maybe it is getting there. Outflow to the SW could be better.

Edit: Also, if we start to get more feeder bands popping on the south side, that will be a signal for imminent rapid intensification.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2064 Postby Meteorcane » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:20 am

On latest CH13-IR data seeing some pixels nearing -30C in the eye... continuing to warm.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2065 Postby aspen » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:21 am

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kevin wrote:I know it's easy to say when recon is leaving, but it really looks like Ida is taking off right now. After the unexpected high central pressure, at least to me (I guess I was expecting low 970s instead of 980s), I feel reluctant to make any new bets but it's bound to deepen at some point so I still think the next recon will find a significantly stronger storm.

yea if i had to guess they might be in for a surprise on the next recon. i know it does happen to them quite a bit but i think they will find ida is going to get some more power by the next recon

I might be in for quite a surprise too later today. I’m going on a hike for several hours in a complete reception dead zone, so I won’t be able to check anything even a little before or after. Two years ago I was at this location for a few hours, and when I got out of the dead zone, Hurricane Dorian had just made landfall at 160 kt. Odds are I come back to a borderline major.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2066 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:22 am

Comradez wrote:Ida starting to get more self-sustaining convection wrapping all the way around the center. It won't really be able to clear out the eye until the pulsing hot towers are replaced by an explosive ring of convection going all the way around into a dense CDO. Maybe it is getting there. Outflow to the SW could be better.

Edit: Also, if we start to get more feeder bands popping on the south side, that will be a signal for imminent rapid intensification.

It probably won’t have a super well established ring for another 12 hours. You’re likely to see this pulse-up, pulse-down phase as the storm sorts out it’s core and progressively stronger towers form. The intensification phase it’s going through reminds me a lot of laura
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2067 Postby Kohlecane » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:23 am

Seems to be opening on visible tiny but you can see it
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2068 Postby Ubuntwo » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:23 am

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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2069 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:23 am

Very rapid improvements occurring in Ida's structure right now. Eye is really starting to warm.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2070 Postby Jr0d » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:24 am

Syx6sic wrote:
kevin wrote:I know it's easy to say when recon is leaving, but it really looks like Ida is taking off right now. After the unexpected high central pressure, at least to me (I guess I was expecting low 970s instead of 980s), I feel reluctant to make any new bets but it's bound to deepen at some point so I still think the next recon will find a significantly stronger storm.

yea if i had to guess they might be in for a surprise on the next recon. i know it does happen to them quite a bit but i think they will find ida is going to get some more power by the next recon


Just given by what the Ida has done the past hour on the satellite images, I expect the pressure to fall quickly. I would not be surprised if we see a 20mb+ drop 4pm(CDT).

This has all right ingredients to rapidly intensify, hopefully it will surprise us and struggle to intensity but the chances of that are very slim.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2071 Postby skyline385 » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:25 am

Curious why both recon decided to leave abruptly at the same time? Is it possible they detected meso-vortices and/or intense weather in center? The eye trying to clear out while its still around 980mb is not normal as well afaik...
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2072 Postby Category5Kaiju » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:25 am

Kohlecane wrote:Seems to be opening on visible tiny but you can see it
https://s9.gifyu.com/images/COD-GOES-East-meso-meso1.02.20210828.151724-overmap-bars.png


Yup, sure looks like the eye is becoming visible. Ida is definitely beginning to strengthen.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2073 Postby Hurricane Mike » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:25 am

I went to bed at 1:30am with absolutely no expectation to wake up to anything more than a Cat 1. I'm surprised so many on these weather forums anticipated more. Ida really shouldn't take off until tonight and Sunday.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2074 Postby Comradez » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:27 am

Looks like a textbook cat 2 on visible right now. Ragged eye starting to peek out, and increasingly symmetrical convection.

Edit: Also, it is likely that the outflow to the south will improve as Ida gains northerly latitude. It will be more squarely under the upper-level high pressure at that point.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2075 Postby Category5Kaiju » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:29 am

Comradez wrote:Looks like a textbook cat 2 on visible right now. Ragged eye starting to peek out, and increasingly symmetrical convection.


I agree; within several hours it would make sense if Ida becomes a Cat 2
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2076 Postby jlauderdal » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:29 am

Hurricane Mike wrote:I went to bed at 1:30am with absolutely no expectation to wake up to anything more than a Cat 1. I'm surprised so many on these weather forums anticipated more. Ida really shouldn't take off until tonight and Sunday.

Don't be surprised, it wasn't long ago we had the annual season cancel posts. IDA on schedule as forecasted, major hurricane for LA.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2077 Postby Kohlecane » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:30 am

Better inflow from those feeder bands
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2078 Postby Syx6sic » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:31 am

skyline385 wrote:Curious why both recon decided to leave abruptly at the same time? Is it possible they detected meso-vortices and/or intense weather in center? The eye trying to clear out while its still around 980mb is not normal as well afaik...

maintenance issues from what i heard
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2079 Postby tropicwatch » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:31 am

Buoy 42003 approximately 85 miles NNE of Ida. Sustained tropical storm force winds and wave height 17ft.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2080 Postby Category5Kaiju » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:31 am

Minus the more well-defined eye, Ida sort of looks like Douglas 2020

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