ATL: ELSA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3081 Postby Steve » Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:25 pm

Looks like some south or southwest input is coming. This should provide some nice juice on the next few hours.

https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES/f ... d=AL052021
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3082 Postby eastcoastFL » Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:26 pm

cane5 wrote:Hate to be right guys Weather Channel just said elsa is moving more northerly and hit cuba shortly. Some people tell me I’m not just another pretty face :)



Looks to still be on a NW heading on visible. Probably still 6-12 hrs from Cuba . But as usual I can be very wrong

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3083 Postby GeneratorPower » Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:27 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Now she's getting groove on.

I like yer style dude.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3084 Postby psyclone » Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:35 pm

Vdogg wrote:
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ConvergenceZone wrote:
Highly unlikely that will verify. nothing to allow it to get that strong. The EURO is out to lunch on that one, which is why the NHC doesn't even mention it...

Those wind probabilities cover a specific time frame and rise as a storm gets closer to the area. Yesterday that percentage was 0. By Wednesday it’ll probably be 30-40% if the storm maintains course.

Not if they're expecting the system to be depression intensity before it leaves florida. I'll be shocked if i get sustained, gradient induced ts winds here.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3085 Postby AtlanticWind » Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:36 pm

GeneratorPower wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:Now she's getting groove on.

I like yer style dude.

New movie How Elsa got her groove back
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3086 Postby Visioen » Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:53 pm

Hi guys!
So early and here we are already!
Regarding Elsa, I'm speculating Cuban land might help tighten the circulation (forgot how exactly that mechanic works).
Anyway, one last moment for her to shine.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3087 Postby sikkar » Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:56 pm

Buckle up for the daily dose of unctrolled explosive convection :cheesy: .
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3088 Postby BYG Jacob » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:03 pm

That burst is gonna blow up the pressure gradient again.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3089 Postby gatorcane » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:05 pm

Last shot before sun goes down. To me it has that “look” she is on the verge of trying to gain some strength. Considering both the latest Euro and GFS runs now show a decent tropical storm impacting the west coast of Florida whereas in their prior runs not much, Elsa may just create some impacts which may surprise some who may have written her off:

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3090 Postby SFLcane » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:07 pm

gatorcane wrote:Last shot before sun goes down. To me it has that “look” it is going to try and gain some strength. Considering both the Euro and GFS runs show a decent Tropical Storm impacting the west coast of Florida whereas in their prior runs not much, Elsa may just create some impacts which may surprise some who may have written her off:

https://i.postimg.cc/28zDvbwL/goes16-vis-swir-watl.gif


Except she’s had that look for the past 2-3 days now. :roll:
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3091 Postby psyclone » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:08 pm

I'm looking at Elsa as a convectively robust PTC. It might do something.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3092 Postby AveryTheComrade » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:08 pm

LLC partially exposed, good burst to cover it though could get it going again, every time I've said this previously I've ended up eating my words a few hours later though.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3093 Postby tolakram » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:08 pm

I'll believe Elsa is strengthening when recon confirms it, otherwise it's just another show. :)
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3094 Postby Michele B » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:10 pm

gatorcane wrote:Last shot before sun goes down. To me it has that “look” she is on the verge of trying to gain some strength. Considering both the latest Euro and GFS runs now show a decent tropical storm impacting the west coast of Florida whereas in their prior runs not much, Elsa may just create some impacts which may surprise some who may have written her off:

https://i.postimg.cc/28zDvbwL/goes16-vis-swir-watl.gif


Looking at this "long view" you can clearly see the trough digging down.

Since Elsa slowed down, any chance she'll miss the trough entirely, and continue on the NW track all the way up to FL Panhandle?
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3095 Postby tolakram » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:10 pm

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3096 Postby StPeteMike » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:11 pm

tolakram wrote:I'll believe Elsa is strengthening when recon confirms it, otherwise it's just another show. :)

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, damn you Elsa!
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3097 Postby Category5Kaiju » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:15 pm

I wonder what the chances are that Elsa makes landfall in the very narrow strip of Cuban land where Havana is and then continue on into the EGULF after that. Clearly at this point depending on where exactly she makes landfall in Cuba, she could emerge somewhat or fully intact or just fall apart entirely like some poorly constructed Lego figure.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3098 Postby Vdogg » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:15 pm

psyclone wrote:
Vdogg wrote:
psyclone wrote:

Those wind probabilities cover a specific time frame and rise as a storm gets closer to the area. Yesterday that percentage was 0. By Wednesday it’ll probably be 30-40% if the storm maintains course.

Not if they're expecting the system to be depression intensity before it leaves florida. I'll be shocked if i get sustained, gradient induced ts winds here.


Who’s expecting it to be a depression? Official NHC forecast has it riding up the coast as a tropical storm.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3099 Postby Dean4Storms » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:20 pm

It definitely has all the satellite appearances of deepening, also have to wonder if that deep convection now to the south of the center doesn't give it a tug more westerly for a spell.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3100 Postby Jr0d » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:21 pm

Early data from recon shows high pressure...1013mb..but that vort is likely not the true center. On radar the is an apparent center further north and east where that fix was....

They have yet to penetrate the convection so light winds reported so far.
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