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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion - Up to 70 mph

#3961 Postby AlphaToOmega » Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:05 pm

It is important to note that Tropical Storm Elsa is one heck of a fighter. If conditions are even slightly more favorable, it could mean very powerful hurricane headed towards Florida.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3962 Postby toad strangler » Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:05 pm

SFLcane wrote:
toad strangler wrote:FL E Coast should see some squalls from the looks of how sheard this system is.


Na… radar is bone dry. A non-event honestly. cloudy with a nice breeze.


You want to re-think that a bit? :D Looks like a couple stiff lines could swing through. Tornado watches up.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion - Up to 70 mph

#3963 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:05 pm

New intensity advisory has a hurricane landfall: 65 knots
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion - Up to 70 mph

#3964 Postby ThetaE » Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:06 pm

wxman57 wrote:I think it's pretty clear that those winds aloft aren't making it to the surface. Coastal obs not far away are only 20 kts. Naples reporting SE at 5 kts.


I agree with this and with how the SFMR readings seem a bit zealous (waters are relatively shallow off the west coast of Florida). These flight-level winds may be relatively recently generated, and thus not yet mixing to the surface. If the convection we've seen this morning can sustain for a few more hours (a nontrivial ask), I could see some of these stronger winds making it towards the surface before landfall.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion - Up to 70 mph

#3965 Postby artist » Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:07 pm

Storm Surge Warning
STORM SURGE WARNING
NWS TAMPA BAY RUSKIN FL
1115 AM EDT TUE JUL 6 2021

FLZ162-062300-
/O.CON.KTBW.SS.W.1005.000000T0000Z-000000T0000Z/
1115 AM EDT TUE JUL 6 2021
Coastal Charlotte-

...STORM SURGE WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT...
...TROPICAL STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT...

* LOCATIONS AFFECTED
- Port Charlotte
- Punta Gorda
- Charlotte harbor

* STORM SURGE
- LATEST LOCAL FORECAST: Localized storm surge possible
- Peak Storm Surge Inundation: The potential for up to 2 feet
above ground somewhere within surge prone areas
- Window of concern: through Thursday evening
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion - Up to 70 mph

#3966 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:07 pm

Forecast to become a Hurricane

12H 07/0000Z 26.5N 83.0W 65 KT 75 MPH
24H 07/1200Z 28.9N 83.0W 65 KT 75 MPH
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion - Up to 70 mph

#3967 Postby mcheer23 » Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:07 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:New intensity advisory has a hurricane landfall: 65 knots


Think it may make it to 70 knots
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion - Up to 70 mph

#3968 Postby Fancy1001 » Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:08 pm

I got to ask this again, What are the chances of Elsa rapidly intensifying during its approach
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion - Up to 70 mph

#3969 Postby Michele B » Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:09 pm

ScottNAtlanta wrote:If the shear lets up...even a little, this is going to be a hurricane. The shear is the main limiting factor.


Hubs just said, 'Hope she doesn't see the Peace River, like Charley did!
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Not funny
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion - Up to 70 mph

#3970 Postby Nuno » Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:09 pm

Fancy1001 wrote:I got to ask this again, What are the chances of Elsa rapidly intensifying during its approach


Always assume a non-zero chance with any intensifying storm. No one here will or can give you figures for this kind of thing.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3971 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:09 pm

toad strangler wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
toad strangler wrote:FL E Coast should see some squalls from the looks of how sheard this system is.


Na… radar is bone dry. A non-event honestly. cloudy with a nice breeze.


You want to re-think that a bit? :D Looks like a couple stiff lines could swing through. Tornado watches up.

The very rare tornado watch for south florida, couple of times a year, maybe. Elsa is overachieving this afternoon.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion - Up to 70 mph

#3972 Postby AlphaToOmega » Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:09 pm

Recent observations from an
Air Force Reserve Unit Hurricane Hunter aircraft indicate that the
maximum winds in Elsa are now near 60 kt. However, the aircraft
has not yet had a chance to sample the northeastern quadrant, so it
is possible that higher winds exist.
Although the environment is
not conducive for significant strengthening before landfall, only a
slight increase in intensity would result in Elsa becoming a
hurricane tonight or early Wednesday.

This might be a hurricane already.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion - Up to 70 mph

#3973 Postby Nimbus » Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:10 pm

HurricaneBelle wrote:
wxman57 wrote:I think it's pretty clear that those winds aloft aren't making it to the surface. Coastal obs not far away are only 20 kts. Naples reporting SE at 5 kts.


Hoping your downplaying of the storm is right. The good news is that if you're wrong I won't have power to come on here and tell you so.


Peak winds for Clearwater won't occur till tomorrow possibly in the wee hours of the morning.
The Sand Key winds some distance to the east of center were recorded high up on a tower facing the open ocean. Power starts going out with 45 mph winds and they take down the whole grid when enough transformers have tripped. If you have any structures to your southeast they will likely divert the peak winds but that won't help with the power issue.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion - Up to 70 mph

#3974 Postby Jevo » Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:12 pm

StormingB81 wrote:
Cat5James wrote:Majority of the peninsula now under a tornado watch (including SE FL)


It goes around me in Brevard…


Yeah, I have no idea why we are under a Tornado Watch in North Broward... its a gorgeous breezy day outside. I even have the windows open to let it flow through.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion - Up to 70 mph

#3975 Postby Cat5James » Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:15 pm

Jevo wrote:
StormingB81 wrote:
Cat5James wrote:Majority of the peninsula now under a tornado watch (including SE FL)


It goes around me in Brevard…


Yeah, I have no idea why we are under a Tornado Watch in North Broward... its a gorgeous breezy day outside. I even have the windows open to let it flow through.

Squalls are on the way. give it 30 mins- hour ( I am also in N Broward)
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion - Up to 70 mph

#3976 Postby AutoPenalti » Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:15 pm

Adrian is right, Tornado watches are up but it's been dry. No rain at all. The sun even peaks out at times.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion - Up to 70 mph

#3977 Postby artist » Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:16 pm

Jevo wrote:
StormingB81 wrote:
Cat5James wrote:Majority of the peninsula now under a tornado watch (including SE FL)


It goes around me in Brevard…


Yeah, I have no idea why we are under a Tornado Watch in North Broward... its a gorgeous breezy day outside. I even have the windows open to let it flow through.

That’s gonna change soon
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion - Up to 70 mph

#3978 Postby Nuno » Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:17 pm

What time do we estimate Elsa will closest approach Pinellas?
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion - Up to 70 mph

#3979 Postby chaser1 » Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:17 pm

Jevo wrote:
StormingB81 wrote:
Cat5James wrote:Majority of the peninsula now under a tornado watch (including SE FL)


It goes around me in Brevard…


Yeah, I have no idea why we are under a Tornado Watch in North Broward... its a gorgeous breezy day outside. I even have the windows open to let it flow through.


Expect "gorgeous" to change lol
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion - Up to 70 mph

#3980 Postby StormPyrate » Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:18 pm

Hurricane center just updated at 2 expecting it to become cat 1
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