ATL: LARRY - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#581 Postby Cyclenall » Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:57 am

supercane4867 wrote:Gigantic eyewall emerging...

I like how thin the eyewall is at 20N :ggreen: . Imagine how crazy Larry would be if that entire large eye was cleared out, let's have.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#582 Postby Keldeo1997 » Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:55 am

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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#583 Postby kevin » Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:23 am

Now it's just getting even more crazy, it almost looks like the jaws of a monster. The eye is very ragged and non-circular atm, but the diameter of the long axis is 100 miles (160 km). I know Carmen and Winnie both has 230 mile eyes, but I don't know if something like this has happened in the Atlantic. At least in recent times I can't really think of a good comparison.

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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#584 Postby Sciencerocks » Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:25 am

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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#585 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:27 am

Incredible eye size...
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#586 Postby AlphaToOmega » Mon Sep 06, 2021 5:05 am

Larry has fluctuated at Category III intensity for a while, but with the eyewall replacement cycle nearly complete, it should start intensifying shortly. One thing that is concerning is that Newfoundland is in the cone of uncertainty.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#587 Postby aspen » Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:56 am

A low-level NOAA research mission will be heading out sometime today, according to the 5am discussion. It’ll be very interesting to see what they find. I have a feeling they might find that Larry isn’t a major, due to how broad the wind field is.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#588 Postby aspen » Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:47 am

This is nearly annular now. If the CDO is able to smooth out, Larry could become a Cat 4.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#589 Postby kevin » Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:29 am

The eye is becoming more circular again and Larry is shedding his outer layers. Looks like Larry's annular phase is beginning, the left side is already there but the right side still needs to contract a bit.

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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#591 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:14 am

NHC discussion confirms that Larry is an annular hurricane. When was the last time we've had an annular hurricane in the Atlantic? Isabel 2003?

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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#592 Postby TallyTracker » Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:14 am



That is an absolutely gorgeous hurricane! I did not expect the predictions of essentially an annular hurricane in the Atlantic to materialize.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#593 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:19 am

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:NHC discussion confirms that Larry is an annular hurricane. When was the last time we've had an annular hurricane in the Atlantic? Isabel 2003?

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It also has a 60 Nautical Mile wide eye per NHC, it's converted to around 70 miles . . .

To put that into perspective, that's about the same distance from Oklahoma City, OK to Weatherford, OK on I-40!
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#594 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:28 am

NOAA plane flying. Follow the mission at the Larry Recon Thread
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion Update= Is Annular / NOAA plane on route

#595 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:32 am

I keep looking at the WV loop and I dont see what is supposed to be the weakness. I see the low coming through the NE US but it doesn't seem to be digging very far south. Is steering harder to predict with annular storms?

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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion Update= Is Annular / NOAA plane on route

#596 Postby grapealcoholic » Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:39 am

Eye contracting -- serious intensification phase possible here.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#597 Postby ThetaE » Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:40 am



Cirrus outflow suggests that shear has weakened a lot, and it's shown in the improvements Larry's made today. I suspect when the NOAA plane arrives that Larry will have a deeper pressure than 956 mb but 100-105 kt winds. I think it's pretty hard to judge how typical rules of thumb hold up to a large annular storm like Larry, especially since these storms are so rare in the Atlantic.

Then again, the NHC is scarily good at intensity estimates of storms in the open ocean when recon is eventually deployed (I remember being surprised by how close they were with Teddy last year).
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#598 Postby Zonacane » Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:47 am

ThetaE wrote:


Cirrus outflow suggests that shear has weakened a lot, and it's shown in the improvements Larry's made today. I suspect when the NOAA plane arrives that Larry will have a deeper pressure than 956 mb but 100-105 kt winds. I think it's pretty hard to judge how typical rules of thumb hold up to a large annular storm like Larry, especially since these storms are so rare in the Atlantic.

Then again, the NHC is scarily good at intensity estimates of storms in the open ocean when recon is eventually deployed (I remember being surprised by how close they were with Teddy last year).

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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion Update= Is Annular / NOAA plane on route

#599 Postby Teban54 » Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:50 am

Cloud tops to the east are cooling again and almost establishing a B ring. You gotta give Larry credit for these constant attempts at intensification even if not all of them succeed.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion Update= Is Annular / NOAA plane on route

#600 Postby grapealcoholic » Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:56 am

Cat 4 as soon as it can contract a little more
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