WPAC: CHOI-WAN - Post-Tropical

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Re: WPAC: CHOI-WAN - Tropical Storm

#41 Postby 1900hurricane » Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:41 pm

Looks like guidance is finally starting to come into better agreement and just have a better handle in general following multiple days where the center ended up propagating more downshear than solutions indicated. I talked a bit about that and the importance of human forecasters in a pair of recent tweets.

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 https://twitter.com/1900hurricane/status/1399855219291340801


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Re: WPAC: CHOI-WAN - Tropical Storm

#42 Postby mrbagyo » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:47 pm

Radar (as always)

Looks like it's already in the Sibuyan Sea
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Re: WPAC: CHOI-WAN - Tropical Storm

#43 Postby JW-_- » Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:28 pm

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Re: WPAC: CHOI-WAN - Tropical Storm

#44 Postby R o x » Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:06 am

What are the chances this storm will come deliver water to Taiwan ?
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Re: WPAC: CHOI-WAN - Tropical Storm

#45 Postby doomhaMwx » Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:15 am

R o x wrote:What are the chances this storm will come deliver water to Taiwan ?

Taiwan still in a drought? Doesn't look like Choi-wan itself will bring much rain to Taiwan, but it could help trigger a promising rainfall event behind it.

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Re: WPAC: CHOI-WAN - Tropical Storm

#46 Postby 1900hurricane » Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:46 am

BIg track errors for both JTWC and JMA (RJTD) with Choi-wan. Neither agency really picked up the downshear center propagation.

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Methodology compares the forecast to the verifying position in the b-deck, so JMA will have larger error at initialization if they have a slightly different center position than JTWC. Errors are in nm.
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Re: WPAC: CHOI-WAN - Tropical Storm

#47 Postby mrbagyo » Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:05 am

Doesn't look that bad now
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Re: WPAC: CHOI-WAN - Tropical Storm

#48 Postby JW-_- » Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:00 am

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Re: WPAC: CHOI-WAN - Tropical Storm

#49 Postby R o x » Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:49 am

Imran_doomhaMwx wrote:
R o x wrote:What are the chances this storm will come deliver water to Taiwan ?


"Taiwan still in a drought? Doesn't look like Choi-wan itself will bring much rain to Taiwan, but it could help trigger a promising rainfall event behind it."

Thanks for the heads up, Imran !
Big parts of Taiwan still suffers from a terrible lack of water; lakes almost dried up practically everywhere, except those in the north of the country.
Turns out, at least on our side of the land, we are totally depending on typhoons to bring water
Here in Toufen/Jhunan we're now on a two day per week water-off regime that could be increased any moment if the water ain't coming very soon.
Nature also suffering immensely, trees dying, declining fauna all thanks to fuppi'n climate change
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Re: WPAC: CHOI-WAN - Tropical Storm

#50 Postby JW-_- » Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:38 am

Meiyu front's usually always delivers precip over Taiwan like clockwork annually.
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Re: WPAC: CHOI-WAN - Tropical Storm

#51 Postby Meow » Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:52 am

JMA now expects a landfall.

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<Analysis at 21 JST, 2021/06/03>
Intensity/Category Tropical Storm
Center Position 18.5N 118.2E
Direction and speed of movement NNW 20km/h (10kt)
Central pressure 1000hPa
Maximum wind speed near center 20m/s (40kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 30m/s (60kt)
≥ 30-kt wind area ALL 165km (90NM)
<Forecast for 09 JST, 2021/06/04>
Intensity/Category Tropical Storm
Center Position 20.2N 118.8E
Direction and speed of movement NNE 20km/h (11kt)
Central pressure 1002hPa
Maximum wind speed 18m/s (35kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 25m/s (50kt)
Radius of probability circle 85km (45NM)
<Forecast for 21 JST, 2021/06/04>
Intensity/Category Tropical Depression
Center Position 22.4N 120.6E
Direction and speed of movement NE 20km/h (12kt)
Central pressure 1004hPa
Radius of probability circle 120km (65NM)
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Re: WPAC: CHOI-WAN - Tropical Storm

#52 Postby mrbagyo » Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:59 pm

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Re: WPAC: CHOI-WAN - Tropical Storm

#53 Postby JW-_- » Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:09 am

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That 12z run was seeing a healthy drink in is forecast.


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Re: WPAC: CHOI-WAN - Tropical Storm

#54 Postby JW-_- » Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:27 am

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00z GFS thinking. So yeah looking like the heavens will be opening up.
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Re: WPAC: CHOI-WAN - Tropical Storm

#55 Postby Hayabusa » Sat Jun 05, 2021 3:12 am

Choi-wan may be crap throughout but I am amazed at its tenacity maintaining as a TS and models clearly failed this one in track.
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Re: WPAC: CHOI-WAN - Tropical Storm

#56 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Jun 05, 2021 3:59 pm

Hayabusa wrote:Choi-wan may be crap throughout but I am amazed at its tenacity maintaining as a TS and models clearly failed this one in track.


That is holding on for dear life!
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