ATL: CLAUDETTE - Remnants - Discussion

[wwizard]

Land, water...doesn't seem to make a difference to this little lady. It's all good.

Sure seemed to like land more than she like water, though.

[Hammy]

There's always post season analysis and I imagine the TCR for Claudette will have some pretty significant changes. To the latter point - yeah, it's been done to death - but from the late 70s to early 90s the NHC designated numerous highly sheared, disorganized, and fringe systems that would be more than borderline even by today's classification standards.

You could well be correct but I'd stack the worst tropical abortions post-2000 against any I can recall from the 70's & 80's. Which 3 or 4 from that period were the worst offenses that you were referring to?

Gustav '84, Dean '83 were very fringe. Henri '85 and Beryl '88 were little more than naked swirls. The depressions from that period are on a whole 'nother level, just look at 1987.

Some systems can clearly be classed as tropical, others nontropical. Hybrid and subtropical classifications fill some of the gap between the two, but what about the rest? What about warm core systems that have very shallow convection or are highly sheared? How about those with broad or elongated circulations with deep convection? The line has to be drawn somewhere when using a binary system of classification, so there will always be ambiguity.

Getting off topic but aside from Gustav (which really should've been classified a subtropical system) everything listed clearly met the criteria. The 60s and 70s though are another story--I imagine we'll see just as many depressions removed as we have new systems added.

[Iceresistance]

And she is gone!

CLAUDETTE HAS BECOME A LOW PRESSURE TROUGH... ...THIS IS THE LAST ADVISORY

Location: 39.0°N 69.0°W
Moving: ENE at 29 mph
Min pressure: 1004 mb
Max sustained: 45 mph

[AlphaToOmega]

Here is the best track data for Tropical Storm Claudette:

AL, 03, 2021061418, , BEST, 0, 198N, 951W, 20, 1009, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1011, 150, 90, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, S, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 004,
AL, 03, 2021061500, , BEST, 0, 195N, 951W, 20, 1009, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1011, 150, 90, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, S, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 004,
AL, 03, 2021061506, , BEST, 0, 192N, 951W, 20, 1009, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1011, 150, 90, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 004,
AL, 03, 2021061512, , BEST, 0, 189N, 951W, 20, 1009, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1011, 150, 120, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 004,
AL, 03, 2021061518, , BEST, 0, 186N, 949W, 20, 1009, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1011, 150, 120, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 004,
AL, 03, 2021061600, , BEST, 0, 183N, 947W, 20, 1009, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1011, 150, 120, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 004,
AL, 03, 2021061606, , BEST, 0, 183N, 944W, 20, 1009, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1011, 150, 120, 30, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 004,
AL, 03, 2021061612, , BEST, 0, 185N, 941W, 20, 1009, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1011, 150, 120, 30, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 004,
AL, 03, 2021061618, , BEST, 0, 189N, 935W, 20, 1009, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1011, 150, 120, 30, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 004,
AL, 03, 2021061700, , BEST, 0, 195N, 930W, 20, 1009, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1011, 150, 130, 30, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 004,
AL, 03, 2021061706, , BEST, 0, 204N, 927W, 25, 1008, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1011, 200, 150, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 004,
AL, 03, 2021061712, , BEST, 0, 214N, 925W, 25, 1008, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1011, 180, 150, 35, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 004,
AL, 03, 2021061718, , BEST, 0, 225N, 924W, 25, 1008, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1011, 180, 150, 35, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 004, TRANSITIONED, alA22021 to al032021,
AL, 03, 2021061800, , BEST, 0, 236N, 919W, 25, 1007, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1010, 180, 150, 35, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, THREE, M, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 004,
AL, 03, 2021061806, , BEST, 0, 245N, 915W, 30, 1007, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1010, 180, 150, 40, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, THREE, S, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 004,
AL, 03, 2021061812, , BEST, 0, 259N, 912W, 30, 1007, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1010, 180, 120, 40, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, THREE, M, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 004,
AL, 03, 2021061818, , BEST, 0, 274N, 912W, 40, 1006, LO, 34, NEQ, 180, 180, 0, 0, 1010, 180, 120, 50, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, THREE, M, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 004,
AL, 03, 2021061900, , BEST, 0, 284N, 911W, 40, 1007, LO, 34, NEQ, 180, 180, 0, 0, 1010, 180, 120, 50, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, THREE, M, 12, NEQ, 90, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 004,
AL, 03, 2021061906, , BEST, 0, 292N, 910W, 40, 1006, TS, 34, NEQ, 180, 180, 0, 0, 1010, 150, 120, 50, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, CLAUDETTE, M, 12, NEQ, 180, 90, 0, 0, genesis-num, 004,
AL, 03, 2021061912, , BEST, 0, 305N, 900W, 40, 1006, TS, 34, NEQ, 0, 180, 0, 0, 1010, 150, 120, 50, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, CLAUDETTE, M, 12, NEQ, 180, 90, 0, 0, genesis-num, 004,
AL, 03, 2021061918, , BEST, 0, 318N, 886W, 35, 1007, TS, 34, NEQ, 0, 180, 0, 0, 1010, 150, 120, 45, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, CLAUDETTE, M, 12, NEQ, 0, 120, 0, 0, genesis-num, 004,
AL, 03, 2021062000, , BEST, 0, 324N, 877W, 25, 1005, TD, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1010, 150, 120, 35, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, CLAUDETTE, M, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 004,
AL, 03, 2021062006, , BEST, 0, 330N, 866W, 25, 1006, TD, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1011, 150, 120, 35, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, CLAUDETTE, M, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 004,
AL, 03, 2021062012, , BEST, 0, 336N, 850W, 25, 1008, TD, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1012, 150, 120, 35, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, CLAUDETTE, M, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 004,
AL, 03, 2021062018, , BEST, 0, 339N, 833W, 25, 1009, TD, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1012, 125, 120, 35, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, CLAUDETTE, M, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 004,
AL, 03, 2021062100, , BEST, 0, 344N, 813W, 30, 1008, TD, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1012, 125, 120, 35, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, CLAUDETTE, M, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 004,
AL, 03, 2021062106, , BEST, 0, 352N, 789W, 35, 1007, TS, 34, NEQ, 0, 110, 0, 0, 1012, 120, 110, 45, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, CLAUDETTE, M, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 004,
AL, 03, 2021062112, , BEST, 0, 362N, 763W, 40, 1006, TS, 34, NEQ, 0, 130, 0, 0, 1012, 120, 110, 45, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, CLAUDETTE, M, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 004,
AL, 03, 2021062118, , BEST, 0, 369N, 734W, 40, 1004, TS, 34, NEQ, 0, 130, 0, 0, 1012, 120, 110, 50, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, CLAUDETTE, M, 12, NEQ, 0, 240, 0, 0, genesis-num, 004,
AL, 03, 2021062200, , BEST, 0, 378N, 703W, 40, 1004, TS, 34, NEQ, 0, 150, 0, 0, 1010, 110, 100, 50, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, CLAUDETTE, M, 12, NEQ, 0, 240, 210, 0, genesis-num, 004,