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Re: WPAC: RAI - Tropical Storm

#61 Postby dexterlabio » Mon Dec 13, 2021 8:43 pm

I don't think it's a mere warm spot at this point because the feature has been visible for more than 6 hours now. Shear impacts are obvious, particularly on the eastern side,.but I think its core is getting established regardless.
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Re: WPAC: RAI - Severe Tropical Storm

#62 Postby doomhaMwx » Mon Dec 13, 2021 9:11 pm

Typhoon warning for Palau
PMZ161-141245-
KOROR PALAU-
939 AM ChST Tue Dec 14 2021

...TYPHOON WARNING NOW IN EFFECT...
...MARINE CONDITIONS HAZARDOUS FOR SMALL CRAFT OPERATIONS...
...COASTAL INUNDATION OF 2 TO 4 FT POSSIBLE THROUGH WEDNESDAY...

.TODAY...Strong tropical storm is intensifying to typhoon strength.
Northwest to west wind 20 to 30 kt with gusts to 40 kt increasing 35
to 45 kt around noon with gusts of 65 kt likely. Combined seas 14 to
16 ft. Cloudy with showers and isolated thunderstorms. Locally heavy
showers likely.
.TONIGHT...Typhoon conditions expected. Northwest to west wind 40 to
50 kt with gusts to 65 kt likely. Combined seas 14 to 16 ft. Cloudy
with showers and isolated thunderstorms. Locally heavy showers
likely. Wind speeds are expected to peak around midnight, then
decrease.


Rai's center is forecast to pass very close to Palau's northernmost state — Kayangel — by tonight at/near typhoon intensity.

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Re: WPAC: RAI - Severe Tropical Storm

#63 Postby doomhaMwx » Mon Dec 13, 2021 9:57 pm

WDPN31 PGTW 140300
MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI//
SUBJ/PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR TROPICAL STORM 28W (RAI) WARNING NR
005//
RMKS/
1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS.
2. 6 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS.

SUMMARY:
INITIAL POSITION: 7.4N 136.9E
INITIAL INTENSITY: 50 KTS
GEOGRAPHIC REFERENCE: 149 NM EAST OF KOROR
MOVEMENT PAST 6 HOURS: WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT 18 KTS
SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT: 18 FEET

SATELLITE ANALYSIS, INITIAL POSITION AND INTENSITY DISCUSSION:
ANIMATED MULTISPECTRAL SATELLITE IMAGERY (MSI) DEPICTS A CENTRAL
COLD COVER (CCC) WITH A SINGLE, NON-ROTATING UPDRAFT AND
OVERSHOOTING TOPS WITH CLOUD TOP TEMPERATURE NEAR -100C. THE
HORIZONTAL EXTENT OF THE CIRRUS SHIELD HAS DECREASED AND BECOME
ELONGATED NORTH TO SOUTH OVER THE PAST FEW HOURS. UNFORTUNATELY,
THERE HAS BEEN ONLY ONE GOOD MICROWAVE PASS IN THE PAST 18 HOURS,
FROM 131946Z AND THUS THERE IS LITTLE IN THE WAY TO REFINE THE
INITIAL POSITION, WHICH IS CURRENTLY PLACED UNDER THE CENTER OF THE
MAIN UPDRAFT AS SEEN IN VISIBLE IMAGERY, WITH LOW CONFIDENCE.

FORWARD TRACK SPEED HAS INCREASED AS WELL, BUT THIS IS ALSO VERY
LOW CONFIDENCE DUE TO THE UNCERTAINTY IN THE INITIAL POSITION. ALL
AGENCIES ARE USING THE CCC SCENE TYPE IN THEIR DVORAK ANALYSIS,
THUS THE CURRENT INTENSITIES ARE BEING HELD AT T3.0 OR T3.5 DUE TO
THE ASSOCIATED CONSTRAINTS. THE INITIAL INTENSITY HAS BEEN
INCREASED TO 50 KNOTS, RIGHT AT THE MEAN BETWEEN T3.0 AND T3.5.
ADDITIONALLY, A PARTIAL SCATTEROMETER PASS FROM 132236Z SHOWED
40-45 KNOT WIND BARBS ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE CIRCULATION,
PROVIDING ADDITIONAL SUPPORT TO AN BUMP UP IN THE INTENSITY.
...


This bullseye ASCAT pass was not yet available at the time of analysis, but JTWC guessed right in placing the center under that overshooting top.

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Re: WPAC: RAI - Severe Tropical Storm

#64 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:28 pm

CCC has degraded significantly.
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Re: WPAC: RAI - Severe Tropical Storm

#65 Postby Sciencerocks » Mon Dec 13, 2021 11:24 pm

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Re: WPAC: RAI - Severe Tropical Storm

#66 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Mon Dec 13, 2021 11:53 pm

This stalling of strengthening was already expected due to some shear. Impressive outflow but the east side is weak. What happens tomorrow is what to look out for.
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Re: WPAC: RAI - Severe Tropical Storm

#67 Postby Hayabusa » Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:04 am

The coldest mean temp of Rai was
2021DEC13 211000 3.2 996 49 3.2 3.4 3.8 0.7T/6hr OFF OFF OFF OFF -86.66 -90.85 UNIFRM N/A -2.0 7.12 -137.97 FCST HIM-8 8.9

While Kammuri
2019NOV30 041000 4.2 975.3 69.8 4.2 4.2 3.8 MW Adjst ON OFF OFF OFF -86.66 -86.73 UNIFRM N/A 1.2 13.43 -135.53 ARCHER HIM-8 16.8 MWinit=3.8/3.7/3.9

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Re: WPAC: RAI - Severe Tropical Storm

#68 Postby doomhaMwx » Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:41 am

Here's from the GK-2A satellite on Dec 13 21Z. The minimum cloud top temperature at the time was -100.21°C (172.94 K), with a few other hot towers having cloud top temps of about -98°C.

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Re: WPAC: RAI - Severe Tropical Storm

#69 Postby dexterlabio » Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:37 am

As the CCC degrades, there's a new blow up of convection at the center which could be an attempt for a CDO (or another CCC)
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Re: WPAC: RAI - Severe Tropical Storm

#70 Postby mrbagyo » Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:20 am

Sciencerocks wrote:Image


Easterly shear is very apparent on that visible loop - you can clearly see the upper level cirrus cloud emanating from the east
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Re: WPAC: RAI - Severe Tropical Storm

#71 Postby aspen » Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:51 am

It does seem like an eyewall is trying to develop, but shear should prevent rapid structural organization over the next day or so. Chances for a major at landfall are thankfully going down.
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Re: WPAC: RAI - Severe Tropical Storm

#72 Postby dexterlabio » Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:45 am

Banding eye?
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Re: WPAC: RAI - Severe Tropical Storm

#73 Postby Sciencerocks » Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:39 pm

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#74 Postby zzh » Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:39 pm

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Re: WPAC: RAI - Severe Tropical Storm

#75 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:05 pm

Appears to have recovered. Much much cleaner looking and the most organized it's ever looked. So it begins...

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Re: WPAC: RAI - Severe Tropical Storm

#76 Postby mrbagyo » Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:07 pm

dexterlabio wrote:Banding eye?



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Re: WPAC: RAI - Severe Tropical Storm

#77 Postby stormstrike » Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:52 pm

so much better than yesterday

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Re: WPAC: RAI - Severe Tropical Storm

#78 Postby stormstrike » Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:56 pm

UW - CIMSS
ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 9.0
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 14 DEC 2021 Time : 231000 UTC
Lat : 9:00:19 N Lon : 132:15:55 E


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
4.4 / 978mb / 75kts



Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
4.4 4.4 4.2

Center Temp : -77.4C Cloud Region Temp : -80.6C

Scene Type : EMBEDDED CENTER CLOUD REGION w/ MW EYE

Subtropical Adjustment : OFF

Extratropical Adjustment : OFF

Positioning Method : FORECAST INTERPOLATION

Ocean Basin : WEST PACIFIC
Dvorak CI > MSLP Conversion Used : CKZ Method

Tno/CI Rules : Constraint Limits : MW ON
Weakening Flag : OFF
Rapid Dissipation Flag : OFF

C/K/Z MSLP Estimate Inputs :
- Average 34 knot radii : 105nmi
- Environmental MSLP : 1005mb

Satellite Name : HIM-8
Satellite Viewing Angle : 14.4 degrees
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Re: WPAC: RAI - Severe Tropical Storm

#79 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:00 pm

Are they going for 65 kts next advisory or straight to 70-75? Looks a typhoon already.
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Re: WPAC: RAI - Severe Tropical Storm

#80 Postby aspen » Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:38 pm

Rai is still dealing with some moderate shear that’s restricting its eastern side, but the development of its inner core indicates that if shear remains at or below its current level, it could peak around 90-100kt before landfall in 36 hours. Any increase, however, will probably be too much.
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