ATL: IAN - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1741 Postby tolakram » Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:40 pm

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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1742 Postby Kazmit » Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:41 pm

989mb is unexpectedly impressive. I was not expecting much strengthening.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1743 Postby Hurrilurker » Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:41 pm

This guy Ian seems to really be stumping at least some of the models. Not only has the track been all over the place after coming off Cuba, but the predicted organization either isn't happening or is happening later than predicted, earlier estimates were ~60-70 KT by this time.

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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1744 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:41 pm

8kts at flight level and 40 kts at surface. It's not quite aligned but close
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1745 Postby Teban54 » Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:42 pm

aspen wrote:Wow, 989mb extrapolated with a tiny pressure gradient. Maybe the HAFS’s solutions of a pinhole-into-EWRC structure for tomorrow might verify.

And the board went from "not even a Cat 1" to "pinhole RI" in 2 hours.
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#1746 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:42 pm

We might get a special advisory for this. Wow.
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#1747 Postby johngaltfla » Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:44 pm

Just like Cheez said, from "downcasting" to "oh crap, time to drag out the plywood" in less than 12 hours.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1748 Postby Hammy » Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:44 pm

galaxy401 wrote:Wow! Ian fooled us all today. Went the unorthodox way of intensifying by not building convection, just gradually tightening the circulation to an eye-like appearance. :eek:

Special advisory probably needed.


There's an hour until the intermediate, since it's not at hurricane intensity they might wait.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1749 Postby Abdullah » Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:45 pm

Dropsonde found 993 millibars with 35 knot winds

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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1750 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:46 pm

Abdullah wrote:Dropsonde found 993 millibars with 35 knot winds

https://i.imgur.com/vziRthn.png

That supports 990-989mb right there. Pressure confirmed. Wow.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1751 Postby PandaCitrus » Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:46 pm

A lot can happen in 36 hours. Kind of scary how quickly storms in this area can ramp up. There is going to be a major freak out if we see a Cat 4 with the NHC path hitting Tampa tomorrow or Tuesday.

johngaltfla wrote:Just like Cheez said, from "downcasting" to "oh crap, time to drag out the plywood" in less than 12 hours.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1752 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:48 pm

I'd go with 50 kt for the intensity based on that data, with respect for the rapid drop in pressure (now looks to be 990 mb).
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1753 Postby HurricaneBelle » Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:48 pm

InfernoFlameCat wrote:We might get a special advisory for this. Wow.


Unless there's a change in watches/warnings necessitated by this, we don't need one.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1754 Postby tolakram » Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:49 pm

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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1755 Postby Sciencerocks » Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:49 pm

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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1756 Postby zhukm29 » Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:51 pm

A lot of systems look bad right before they explode in good conditions. There's more than enough time for Ian to become a powerful cyclone, given the time it has in pristine conditions. Once things fully align, Ian will be off to the races, which is why when we shouldn't be downcasting before the nuke is ready to explode :D
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1757 Postby skillz305 » Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:51 pm




My god that storm looking North
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1758 Postby psyclone » Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:52 pm

This system is mirroring the season...delayed but not denied.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1759 Postby JaxGator » Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:54 pm

galaxy401 wrote:Wow! Ian fooled us all today. Went the unorthodox way of intensifying by not building convection, just gradually tightening the circulation to an eye-like appearance. :eek:

Special advisory probably needed.


Definitely a power keg ready to go off. At least it’s starting to look like it atm. Ian trying to fool us like the Dark Lord’s Sauron and Sidious, only revealing their true nature when ready.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1760 Postby CronkPSU » Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:54 pm

CronkPSU wrote:maybe the NHC and every model will get it wrong but I am thinking a lot of these posts about how it will never develop and why is it so weak will look pretty silly in 24 hours....it has more than enough time and favorable conditions to get to Cat 4


I guess I should have said the doubters might look pretty silly in under THREE hours, not 24…
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