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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#1801 Postby aspen » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:13 pm

80kt/969mb by 06z Monday morning on the HWRF. This is shaping up to possibly be its strongest run yet.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#1802 Postby AutoPenalti » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:17 pm

Euro sticking to its guns looks like. Interesting
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#1803 Postby NDG » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:19 pm

chris_fit wrote:
LarryWx wrote:
chris_fit wrote:Anyone have 12z UKMET?


12Z UKMET: strongest run yet and SW of prior run with LF near Tampa area:

TROPICAL STORM IAN ANALYSED POSITION : 14.7N 74.5W

ATCF IDENTIFIER : AL092022

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
1200UTC 24.09.2022 0 14.7N 74.5W 1007 26
0000UTC 25.09.2022 12 14.2N 77.0W 1005 25
1200UTC 25.09.2022 24 14.9N 79.2W 1004 27
0000UTC 26.09.2022 36 15.4N 81.4W 1003 25
1200UTC 26.09.2022 48 17.0N 82.8W 1002 30
0000UTC 27.09.2022 60 18.9N 84.2W 1001 30
1200UTC 27.09.2022 72 20.9N 85.1W 998 34
0000UTC 28.09.2022 84 23.0N 85.6W 996 42
1200UTC 28.09.2022 96 24.5N 85.8W 994 42
0000UTC 29.09.2022 108 25.6N 85.1W 993 51
1200UTC 29.09.2022 120 26.6N 84.1W 991 55
0000UTC 30.09.2022 132 27.0N 83.2W 986 54
1200UTC 30.09.2022 144 28.3N 82.5W 987 47


Thanks Larry. Where was the previous LF?


Is pretty much on the same track as its previous 0z run.
What is weird is that the UKMET has been left biased most often than not this season.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#1804 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:23 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:Euro sticking to its guns looks like. Interesting


The 12Z isnt out yet
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#1805 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:24 pm

12z HWRF at 943 mb and 114 knots Tuesday Night near the western tip of Cuba.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#1806 Postby aspen » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:27 pm

A very close call for the westernmost tip of Cuba.
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HMON so far is similar but weaker.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#1807 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:28 pm

The trends on the GFS are interesting, but I'm not sold on it by any means. It's being very inconsistent, shifting as much as 100+ miles west each run. The Euro, thus far, has been very consistent with its solution. If the 12z Euro comes in significantly further north (into the Panhandle), I will be much more inclined to believe the GFS.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#1808 Postby AutoPenalti » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:32 pm

SEASON_CANCELED wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:Euro sticking to its guns looks like. Interesting


The 12Z isnt out yet

Was looking at the 06z
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#1809 Postby LarryWx » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:36 pm

BobHarlem wrote:Quick summary 12z cmc and gfs Destin, shift west. Icon and ukmet shift right. To cedar key and Tampa Bay respectively.

Euro?

Clear as mud.


12Z UKMET didn't shift right. It actually is SW of 0Z points before hitting FL, but still ends up hitting near Tampa area a day later than the 0Z run.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#1810 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:37 pm

12z HWRF is currently the strongest run yet
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#1811 Postby PTrackerLA » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:38 pm

I would think the 12z Euro starts to fold to the GFS. 06z ensembles started showing tracks matching GFS so we will see. Something has to give today as this is getting ridiculous.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#1812 Postby aspen » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:42 pm

HWRF/HMON both show a peak in the low to mid 930s in the southern Gulf late Tuesday into early Wednesday.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#1813 Postby CDO62 » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:42 pm

Here's a graphic on the 12z UKMET

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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#1814 Postby Nimbus » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:44 pm

Out to 120 hours the 12Z UKMET tracks north well offshore west coast of Florida with the other west leaning track models, then the track suddenly turns sharply east and drags back all the west longitude they had gained from the earlier runs?

Its like a Charley move but I don't see any trough split, just a slightly later ridge evolution than the GFS.
The 1031 mb high is centered a little further west over Hamilton NY for the UKMET run.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#1815 Postby toad strangler » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:45 pm

PTrackerLA wrote:I would think the 12z Euro starts to fold to the GFS. 06z ensembles started showing tracks matching GFS so we will see. Something has to give today as this is getting ridiculous.


wxman57 says it’s the worst model there is for this set up. We shall see!
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#1816 Postby skyline385 » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:45 pm

GEFS moving west as well

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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#1817 Postby gatorcane » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:46 pm

12Z Euro about ready to run.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#1818 Postby FLWeatherX » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:46 pm

PTrackerLA wrote:I would think the 12z Euro starts to fold to the GFS. 06z ensembles started showing tracks matching GFS so we will see. Something has to give today as this is getting ridiculous.



This is getting ridiculous, but that doesn’t mean the euro has to fold. Euro is better at picking up patterns more than gfs. Gfs has been widely inconsistent, whereas Euro has been consistent on a peninsula hit. Guess we will see
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#1819 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:47 pm

FLWeatherX wrote:
PTrackerLA wrote:I would think the 12z Euro starts to fold to the GFS. 06z ensembles started showing tracks matching GFS so we will see. Something has to give today as this is getting ridiculous.



This is getting ridiculous, but that doesn’t mean the euro has to fold. Euro is better at picking up patterns more than gfs. Gfs has been widely inconsistent, whereas Euro has been consistent on a peninsula hit. Guess we will see



It isnt just GFS. CMC aswell, only outlier seems to be UKMET and whatever EURO does
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#1820 Postby ObsessedMiami » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:49 pm

Everyone clutching every Magic 8 ball, rabbits foot and Ouija board today for these model runs lol
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