ATL: IAN - Post-Tropical - Discussion

[marionstorm]

Chainsaw squad is sharpening and gassing up. We got this: Ocalans the highest spots are the hospitals and Blessed Trinity. The poor are north of the square where some jacks dug a giant bowl a century ago to dump clay and tree debris from the lumber mill. I expect insane flooding and all the pine trees to lay down those lazy b’s never dig deep roots

[DestinHurricane]

Hey i’m 50 miles north of tampa near coast with mandatory evac effective 9am tomorrow. does that mean i have to leave by 9 or can i wait longer as long as it’s not too late. like afternoon sometime. i’m not sure how the law applies

Basically means if you don't evacuate emergency personnel are not going to put their lives in danger to help you when it hits the fan

I won’t wait till it’s too late. my friend telling me i need to leave at 9 and there will be no weather yet so i’m like wait a few hours. i will obey the law but not sure if i hv to leave at 9

Technically, there is no "law". I rode out Michael in a mandatory evacuation zone in Zone A.

[robbielyn]

Hey i’m 50 miles north of tampa near coast with mandatory evac effective 9am tomorrow. does that mean i have to leave by 9 or can i wait longer as long as it’s not too late. like afternoon sometime. i’m not sure how the law applies

Should be leaving early, you don’t want to be stuck on the road with no gas
just going 20 minutes up the road to my friends house to hunker down on us 19 but still close


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[Hammy]

Basically means if you don't evacuate emergency personnel are not going to put their lives in danger to help you when it hits the fan

I won’t wait till it’s too late. my friend telling me i need to leave at 9 and there will be no weather yet so i’m like wait a few hours. i will obey the law but not sure if i hv to leave at 9

Technically, there is no "law". I rode out Michael in a mandatory evacuation zone in Zone A.

Doesn't mandatory essentially mean you can't return once you've left/roads will be closed at a certain point?

[Grumpy]

I've been lurking on this site for years, during hurricane season and finally decided to join. I just wanted to say thank you to those who have contributed for all these years in keeping people safe and educating us. It's greatly appreciated.

[Mjm1111]

Hey i’m 50 miles north of tampa near coast with mandatory evac effective 9am tomorrow. does that mean i have to leave by 9 or can i wait longer as long as it’s not too late. like afternoon sometime. i’m not sure how the law applies

Basically means if you don't evacuate emergency personnel are not going to put their lives in danger to help you when it hits the fan

I won’t wait till it’s too late. my friend telling me i need to leave at 9 and there will be no weather yet so i’m like wait a few hours. i will obey the law but not sure if i hv to leave at 9

The “law” is the authorities cannot force you from your house. They just won’t put themselves at risk and you would be on our own if there is a fire, flood or health emergency.

[KC7NEC]

Hey i’m 50 miles north of tampa near coast with mandatory evac effective 9am tomorrow. does that mean i have to leave by 9 or can i wait longer as long as it’s not too late. like afternoon sometime. i’m not sure how the law applies

Basically means if you don't evacuate emergency personnel are not going to put their lives in danger to help you when it hits the fan

I won’t wait till it’s too late. my friend telling me i need to leave at 9 and there will be no weather yet so i’m like wait a few hours. i will obey the law but not sure if i hv to leave at 9

If you are planning to wait for the weather that will be too late to evacuate

[Grumpy]

Basically means if you don't evacuate emergency personnel are not going to put their lives in danger to help you when it hits the fan

I won’t wait till it’s too late. my friend telling me i need to leave at 9 and there will be no weather yet so i’m like wait a few hours. i will obey the law but not sure if i hv to leave at 9

Technically, there is no "law". I rode out Michael in a mandatory evacuation zone in Zone A.

There is a law, FS 252.38, it's just hard to enforce when the event is actually happening, but does allow for criminal charges.

[SunnyThoughts]

Hey i’m 50 miles north of tampa near coast with mandatory evac effective 9am tomorrow. does that mean i have to leave by 9 or can i wait longer as long as it’s not too late. like afternoon sometime. i’m not sure how the law applies

If evacuations are ordered for 9 am I would leave by 9 pm tonight.

Have family living in Clearwater, they are leaving late tonight. Easier travel. Give yourself time, traffic will be horrible if you wait too long.

[skyline385]

Hey i’m 50 miles north of tampa near coast with mandatory evac effective 9am tomorrow. does that mean i have to leave by 9 or can i wait longer as long as it’s not too late. like afternoon sometime. i’m not sure how the law applies

Should be leaving early, you don’t want to be stuck on the road with no gas
just going 20 minutes up the road to my friends house to hunker down on us 19 but still close


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lol you should have included that info before. If you are just 20 mins away then you should be good anytime.


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[skyline385]

Could tops seem to warming with the CB near the center dead. Could be just a temporary pulse down as we have seen with some canes before they RI.


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[Michele B]

Hey i’m 50 miles north of tampa near coast with mandatory evac effective 9am tomorrow. does that mean i have to leave by 9 or can i wait longer as long as it’s not too late. like afternoon sometime. i’m not sure how the law applies

Basically means if you don't evacuate emergency personnel are not going to put their lives in danger to help you when it hits the fan

Mandatory. There's a reason they're not leaving it up to you to decide. You must be in a flood-prone area or other unforeseen dangers lurk.

Heed their warnings. If you leave sooner, rather than later, you won't be caught up with all the johnny-come-lately's who'll wait till the last possible moment to leave and the roads will be gridlock. Gas will be gone (if it's not already) and tempers will flare. A miserable way to travel, if you ask me. If you leave today, you can pick a spot to leisurely get settled in. Think of it as a "mandatory" vacation!

Maybe Lakeland, Lake City, Clermont. Nice little towns....

[Sanibel]

The Ft Myers Costco at Cypress Lake had normal gas lines that were only 4 cars deep...

There's a two can limit for gas cans...

There was still plenty of water and other types of drinks...

[Sciencerocks]

[robbielyn]

Should be leaving early, you don’t want to be stuck on the road with no gas
just going 20 minutes up the road to my friends house to hunker down on us 19 but still close


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lol you should have included that info before. If you are just 20 mins away then you should be good anytime.


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yeah my friend thinks i hv to at 9 and i’m like no as long as i leave before weather gets bad so we have a different take on what effective tomorrow at 9 means.

[GCANE]

The east tower is really going to town.

Towers punching like that are the kick-off for Ian becoming a major. Good to have you and Aric back

Much thanks Zonacane

[Recurve]

An evacuation "effective 9 am" means that's when evacuation begins -- when the order takes effect. From that time on, people may be prevented from coming into the area if they don't have a residence there. Draw bridges may be locked down, preventing boats from going through. Other measures, such as closing public building, take effect then. Traffic may be diverted to help people leave. But you do not have to leave by then or immediately (within an hour, say). I would plan on being ready to leave close to then, however. You have the rest of today and tonight to prepare. It's great that you are leaving an evacuation area but not going far. That is the smart thing to do.

[Hypercane_Kyle]

That big dry slot to the south and west of the CDO appears to be disappearing. Ian is trying to rid itself of the mid-level dry air that intruded this morning and halted rapid intensification. Rapid intensification should be resuming in a few hours.

[robbielyn]

An evacuation "effective 9 am" means that's when evacuation begins -- when the order takes effect. From that time on, people may be prevented from coming into the area if they don't have a residence there. Draw bridges may be locked down, preventing boats from going through. Other measures, such as closing public building, take effect then. Traffic may be diverted to help people leave. But you do not have to leave by then or immediately (within an hour, say). I would plan on being ready to leave close to then, however. You have the rest of today and tonight to prepare. It's great that you are leaving an evacuation area but not going far. That is the smart thing to do.

yes leaving 55+ mobile home community.

[Nimbus]

Outflow beginning to expand to the northwest without any apparent shear in the upper levels over the southern gulf. Ian is moving pretty slow relative to the upper air dynamics and the big trough to the north has already rolled into Wisconsin. We should have some time tonight to check the recon points and upper air data against the different model runs to see which are verifying. Latest Euro keeps Ian west of -83.5 all the way north past Tampa bay. You would think the models would converge with the 48 hour forecast but some of them seem to be in play it safe mode for public awareness.