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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2841 Postby CronkPSU » Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:15 pm

they are going to have to move the cone (edit forecast point) even more slightly east after this run
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2842 Postby tolakram » Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:17 pm

CronkPSU wrote:they are going to have to move the cone even more slightly east after this run


Semantics, but cone does not move, forecast points move. Cone is just a circle around each point with a diameter set yearly based on average error. I think you know this, but putting it here for everyone.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2843 Postby toad strangler » Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:24 pm

MAN oh MAN that trough placement and movement out is soooo tricky and means everything to many people.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2844 Postby LarryWx » Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:24 pm

At hour 120 of 12Z, Euro (Columbus, GA) is 300 miles west of the UKMET (CHS)!
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2845 Postby SFLcane » Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:27 pm

toad strangler wrote:MAN oh MAN that trough placement and movement out is soooo tricky and means everything to many people.


Yep!! But as i said either the UKMET is out of its mind or it will score big soon.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2846 Postby tolakram » Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:28 pm

Will have to wait for the full run to see how long it takes to move away.

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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2847 Postby AutoPenalti » Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:30 pm

All bets are off after Cuba, it's insane how much variability there is. Recon also made a pass and had the center slightly E of the forecast point.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2848 Postby Kohlecane » Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:32 pm

SFLcane wrote:
toad strangler wrote:MAN oh MAN that trough placement and movement out is soooo tricky and means everything to many people.


Yep!! But as i said either the UKMET is out of its mind or it will score big soon.

It did well with Grace last year as the furthest Western outlier
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2849 Postby tolakram » Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:35 pm

Canelaw99 wrote:Does anyone have the steering maps handy and/or can post a link to find them? Thanks!!


https://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/dlmmain.php?&basin=atlantic&sat=wg8&prod=dlm1&zoom=&time=
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2850 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:03 pm

TVCN over Tampa.

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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2851 Postby Kazmit » Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:05 pm

This reminds me a lot of Hurricane Matthew and how close it would get to the east coast of Florida. Except this is on the west coast.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2852 Postby skillz305 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:08 pm

cycloneye wrote:TVCN over Tampa.

https://i.imgur.com/m9ZRBh1.png



Wow brother, that cone is definitely gonna have to shift IMHO.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2853 Postby Beachside » Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:10 pm

cycloneye wrote:TVCN over Tampa.

https://i.imgur.com/m9ZRBh1.png

As a Space Coast resident, I sure hope UKMET is out to lunch on this one.....
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2854 Postby Teban54 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:11 pm

Kazmit wrote:This reminds me a lot of Hurricane Matthew and how close it would get to the east coast of Florida. Except this is on the west coast.

Also Dorian with the stall.

But even worse, because Tampa will be on the dirty side.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2855 Postby Category5Kaiju » Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:11 pm

Kazmit wrote:This reminds me a lot of Hurricane Matthew and how close it would get to the east coast of Florida. Except this is on the west coast.


And has a chance of actually hitting a big city head-on with hurricane force winds.

Idk, something tells me that this might be "the storm" that Tampa Bay has feared would happen ever since 1921.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2856 Postby skillz305 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:11 pm

Beachside wrote:
cycloneye wrote:TVCN over Tampa.

https://i.imgur.com/m9ZRBh1.png

As a Space Coast resident, I sure hope UKMET is out to lunch on this one.....



Honestly - a lot of models are starting to agree that this storm is gonna get pulled by that trough thru central Florida. Not liking this one but. Vero Beach here.
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2857 Postby jlauderdal » Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:12 pm

skillz305 wrote:
cycloneye wrote:TVCN over Tampa.

https://i.imgur.com/m9ZRBh1.png



Wow brother, that cone is definitely gonna have to shift IMHO.
The forecast track will shift and the cone will shift accordingly.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2858 Postby Fancy1001 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:18 pm

Category5Kaiju wrote:
Kazmit wrote:This reminds me a lot of Hurricane Matthew and how close it would get to the east coast of Florida. Except this is on the west coast.


And has a chance of actually hitting a big city head-on with hurricane force winds.

Idk, something tells me that this might be "the storm" that Tampa Bay has feared would happen ever since 1921.

In order for the storm to be hurricane Phoenix, the storm that you’re referring to, it would need to be a strong cat 4 or a cat five at landfall.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2859 Postby N2FSU » Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:23 pm

Question for someone smarter than me: How does the Euro shift west 3 runs in a row and yet the TVCN shifts east? Does the UKMET carry as much weight as the Euro all of a sudden? The UK is the eastern outlier now.


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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2860 Postby PandaCitrus » Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:24 pm

Hitting Tampa in the official NHC track makes sense from a media perspective. Major mandatory evacuations will start in Hillsborough and Pinellas today and tomorrow and you need to drive the point how. The fact that the science backs up the call makes it the right call too with TVCN. Truth be told whether its a direct hit or just off the coast the effects will be similar with surge and that is where lives are lost. I'm not sure they have much choice.
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