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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3001 Postby blp » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:38 pm

Beef Stew wrote:
SFLcane wrote::crazyeyes: ensembles now all south of Tampa!

https://i.postimg.cc/4yTcZcJb/6-C0-DCF05-A16-D-434-A-A13-E-9-CC81-ECC6-CBC.jpg



And there’s the shock of the night. If the UKMet ends up nailing this after all, it’ll be quite a showing for the model. All eyes are waiting on the 0z GFS ensembles now.


Ukmet has had it's wins in the past. It was the first showing the west trend in Irma that spared metro Dade and Broward and drove it toward Cuba then over the lower keys and west coast when Euro and GFS were locked in. Ukmet is a top notch model so the fact it's been trending south past few runs is a concern.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3002 Postby skillz305 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:40 pm

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ronjon wrote:On behalf of the 3 million residents of Tampa Bay area, we thank you Euro!

Happy for them, not so happy for me... Cat 1 conditions in CFL for sure, even in Kissimmee if this verifies



Vero Beach here.... yeah, this EURO run is mind boggling. Everyone tomorrow is going to START prepping....
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3003 Postby NDG » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:42 pm

ronjon wrote:On behalf of the 3 million residents of Tampa Bay area, we thank you Euro!


But 15-20+ inches of rain, not sure if that's any better than the storm surge if it tracks south of the Bay.

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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3004 Postby robbielyn » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:44 pm

ronjon wrote:On behalf of the 3 million residents of Tampa Bay area, we thank you Euro!


YES! thank you very much!!!
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3005 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:45 pm

robbielyn wrote:
ronjon wrote:On behalf of the 3 million residents of Tampa Bay area, we thank you Euro!


YES! thank you very much!!!


Let's not put the cart before the horse. By no means is Tampa out on bail.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3006 Postby NDG » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:46 pm

A closer look at the 0z TVCN.

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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3007 Postby Hurricane Mike » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:46 pm

I have a feeling these models will result in a track shift at 11pm.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3008 Postby johngaltfla » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:51 pm

NDG wrote:A closer look at the 0z TVCN.

https://i.imgur.com/dy0weOu.gif


That's about as bad as it could get for Sarasota, Manatee, and the Tampa area.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3009 Postby Beef Stew » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:54 pm

blp wrote:
Beef Stew wrote:
SFLcane wrote::crazyeyes: ensembles now all south of Tampa!

https://i.postimg.cc/4yTcZcJb/6-C0-DCF05-A16-D-434-A-A13-E-9-CC81-ECC6-CBC.jpg



And there’s the shock of the night. If the UKMet ends up nailing this after all, it’ll be quite a showing for the model. All eyes are waiting on the 0z GFS ensembles now.


Ukmet has had it's wins in the past. It was the first showing the west trend in Irma that spared metro Dade and Broward and drove it toward Cuba then over the lower keys and west coast when Euro and GFS were locked in. Ukmet is a top notch model so the fact it's been trending south past few runs is a concern.


Fully agree. The UKMet is a good model, but like all other does have it’s whiffs from time to time. If (and that’s still a big if!) the southern solution pans out this would be comparable to when it nailed Irma’s path 5 years ago.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3010 Postby Blown Away » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:55 pm

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18z Euro ensembles.

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Real time radar position.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3011 Postby skyline385 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:57 pm

Made a composite of the last 3 EPS runs

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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3012 Postby tronbunny » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:58 pm

Methinks Ian smells the front/trough
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3013 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 9:00 pm

The Charley scenario of a late turn needs to be emphasized as a possibility. The angle of approach means that a slight change in track makes a big difference in landfall point. Hopefully no one gets caught off guard if that does happen.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3014 Postby chaser1 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 9:02 pm



Any chance you've figured how to speed up that radar LOL? I think i've tried everything
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3015 Postby Ken711 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 9:02 pm

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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3016 Postby chaser1 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 9:03 pm

Certainly one huge distinction between Charlie and Ian - Speed (forward motion)
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3017 Postby PandaCitrus » Mon Sep 26, 2022 9:06 pm

If you look at the Euro ensembles, the current track is aligned with landfall in Ft. Myers and out St. Lucie county with tremendous surge and wind effects on areas that are not paying any attention now like Naples and Palm Beach County. Also, a southern track may not have a chance to weaken much from the shear and come in really strong as a Cat 3/4.

CrazyC83 wrote:The Charley scenario of a late turn needs to be emphasized as a possibility. The angle of approach means that a slight change in track makes a big difference in landfall point. Hopefully no one gets caught off guard if that does happen.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3018 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 9:07 pm

skyline385 wrote:Made a composite of the last 3 EPS runs

https://i.imgur.com/lsHsE3O.jpg

This puts it into perspective.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3019 Postby 869MB » Mon Sep 26, 2022 9:32 pm

While everyone anxiously awaits the 00Z GFS run to arrive, I think we all need to give a big shot out to all of the people and the hard work they put in over the years to improve the overall performance of our forecast weather computer models. Don't forget that Storm2K was able to create a thread back on Thursday, September 15th regarding this storm's potential threat toward Cuba and the United States.

I have some serious doubts that the forecast computer models 20 to 25 years ago would have been able to sniff out this threat as early as the ones we have today. Just food for thought when we're assessing a respective computer model's performance.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3020 Postby otowntiger » Mon Sep 26, 2022 9:33 pm

chaser1 wrote:Certainly one huge distinction between Charlie and Ian - Speed (forward motion)

Exactly. Also potential size of the storm. Ian’s bigger. It could take the same/similar path to Charlie but since it’s moving much slower we, here in Orlando may not get the same amount of wind as a slow moving storm has much more time to diminish before getting this far inland, and rain wasn’t a problem. In Charlie we got 105mph gusts here. But only 2 inches of rain. Ian may bring 50 mph wind but 10 inches of rain. Of course this depends upon the storm following that path but obviously not in any way certain.
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