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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#41 Postby skyline385 » Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:54 pm

0Z GFS is a sheared mess

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#42 Postby Cat5James » Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:07 pm

skyline385 wrote:0Z GFS is a sheared mess

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Stronger and heavier rainfall for S FL then previous run.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#43 Postby skyline385 » Thu Jun 02, 2022 2:02 am

06Z Guidance, surprisingly there seems to be really good agreement now between most models for track guidance (except HMON who decided to go on a field trip)

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#44 Postby skyline385 » Thu Jun 02, 2022 2:19 am

EURO still spreads precipitation more evenly compared to GFS which dumps most of it on SFL

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#45 Postby SFLcane » Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:25 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#46 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:26 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#47 Postby kevin » Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:54 am

12z GFS, 998/996 mbar SFL landfall.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#48 Postby skyline385 » Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:04 am

kevin wrote:12z GFS, 998/996 mbar SFL landfall.

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Biggest change seems to be the moisture getting pushed up north on this run

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#49 Postby Spacecoast » Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:49 pm

NWS NBM (National Blend of Models)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#50 Postby Jelmergraaff » Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:51 pm

A significant amount of GEFS members are showing quite some depening of the TC once it's over the Atlantic Ocean. I would say about half of the ensemble shows a central pressure of 990 mb or lower.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#51 Postby kunosoura » Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:58 pm

Jelmergraaff wrote:A significant amount of GEFS members are showing quite some depening of the TC once it's over the Atlantic Ocean. I would say about half of the ensemble shows a central pressure of 990 mb or lower.



Yeah, that 06Z to 12Z update shows a number of members becoming substantially deeper. Will be interesting to see if a trend emerges.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#52 Postby chris_fit » Thu Jun 02, 2022 1:14 pm

12z Euro seems to have bumped up the latitude a little bit. Looks like Landfall somewhere in Sarasota County instead of Port Charlotte/Naples area.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#53 Postby Blown Away » Thu Jun 02, 2022 1:28 pm

kunosoura wrote:
Jelmergraaff wrote:A significant amount of GEFS members are showing quite some depening of the TC once it's over the Atlantic Ocean. I would say about half of the ensemble shows a central pressure of 990 mb or lower.



Yeah, that 06Z to 12Z update shows a number of members becoming substantially deeper. Will be interesting to see if a trend emerges.


Maybe if the LLC reforms under the deep convection it might allow 91L to deepen faster?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#54 Postby tolakram » Thu Jun 02, 2022 1:54 pm

Jelmergraaff wrote:A significant amount of GEFS members are showing quite some depening of the TC once it's over the Atlantic Ocean. I would say about half of the ensemble shows a central pressure of 990 mb or lower.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#55 Postby aspen » Thu Jun 02, 2022 2:15 pm

Quite a significant shift in the long-term evolution of 91L/Alex from this most recent batch of model runs. Occasionally some model run has kept Alex alive - and even slightly strengthened it - after crossing Florida, but now most models are showing such a scenario. I'm not quite sure how many keep Alex as a tropical system or just turn it into a non-tropical low.
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The GFS, ECWMF, and HWRF are the most aggressive models for post-Florida intensity.
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The ICON keeps Alex alive for a bit before it gets strung out in the open Atlantic.
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The CMC make short work of Alex and rips into a string of vorticity pretty quickly. As of now, it's a significant outlier.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#56 Postby Jelmergraaff » Thu Jun 02, 2022 2:26 pm

Here's a loop with the probabilities of >56 mph wind gusts from Friday to Thursday, according to the EPS (European Model Ensemble). Seems like a good chance of an intensifing cyclone after it has passed Florida. Chances of 56 mph wind gusts or above for 1 specific location are up to about 50%. Chance for hurricane force wind gusts are rather small. So seems like it'll get the name Alex, but shouldn't be too strong (most likely a weak- to moderate TS).

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#57 Postby Spacecoast » Thu Jun 02, 2022 3:21 pm

12Z ECMF ensemble mean (& operational) shifts north.....
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Re: ATL: ONE - Models

#58 Postby Spacecoast » Thu Jun 02, 2022 5:28 pm

Total Precip from various 12z/18z models, from N to S...

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Re: ATL: ONE - Models

#59 Postby skyline385 » Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:19 pm

HWRF intensifying over land

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Re: ATL: ONE - Models

#60 Postby KirbyDude25 » Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:25 pm

skyline385 wrote:HWRF intensifying over land

https://i.imgur.com/7p5t5fs.png

HWRF brings it to 83 knots, I think we can reasonably say it's gone a bit crazy
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