ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#221 Postby SoupBone » Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:09 am

I really hope this avoids getting named.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#222 Postby skyline385 » Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:11 am

PTC 4 has an eye now! We got a minimum of Cat 3 on our hands here :D

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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#223 Postby MHC Tracking » Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:15 am

skyline385 wrote:PTC 4 has an eye now! We got a minimum of Cat 3 on our hands here :D

https://i.imgur.com/ApeWm2t.png

Maybe it'll be the closest we get to one for a while :lol:
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#224 Postby wxman57 » Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:18 am

I'm no longer seeing much talk here about how bad the models were with this system by not developing a TS. Its best shot at developing may have passed. Shear increases from now to landfall. It did look more impressive yesterday. Probably not going to make it to a strong TS or hurricane in the next 12 hours before it moves inland. Recon finding only SE-S winds. Not even much of a wave axis so far.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#225 Postby NDG » Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:20 am

Enough for an upgrade? Seems broad and elongated.

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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#226 Postby NDG » Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:28 am

No doubt the circulation is closed, question is if it is defined enough.

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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#227 Postby SoupBone » Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:31 am

NDG wrote:No doubt the circulation is closed, question is if it is defined enough.

https://i.imgur.com/f0vjXxh.jpg



They better not waste a name on this thing. :lol:
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#228 Postby wxman57 » Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:33 am

Nope, not well defined enough to call it a TD. Broad, weak swirl is all the plane found. No convergence toward any center. Winds all blowing away from the weak swirl. Swirl is nearly on the coast already, too.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#229 Postby NDG » Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:36 am

SoupBone wrote:
NDG wrote:No doubt the circulation is closed, question is if it is defined enough.

https://i.imgur.com/f0vjXxh.jpg



They better not waste a name on this thing. :lol:


Though it only has a few hours over water I am sure they can go ahead and name it because it will become better organized inland like the rest of the systems have done :wink:
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#230 Postby DorkyMcDorkface » Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:42 am

Yeah not seeing much in the way of a cohesive low level circulation right now with this thing. Time is ticking, doesn't have much time before it runs out of real estate. If it does somehow manage to pull a rabbit out of its hat it'll be a TD at most.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#231 Postby wx98 » Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:57 am

Interesting system. So the models not doing anything with this weren’t wrong.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#232 Postby SoupBone » Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:06 am

wx98 wrote:Interesting system. So the models not doing anything with this weren’t wrong.


So far, no. Looks like the models were correct.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#233 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:10 am

This is one of the most oddball situations I've ever seen with a system like PTC 4.

It's not taking advantage of the very warm waters despite low wind shear (It has increased on Satellite, but I'm thinking that it's not limiting it.), there is not much dry air either, there must be something else going on.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#234 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:16 am

Story of the season I guess. Models are right when there's no development, and wrong when they show development.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#235 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:34 am

Chances of development now down to 60% (Orange).
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#236 Postby SoupBone » Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:35 am

Iceresistance wrote:Chances of development now down to 60% (Orange).


Probably going to drop to 40% for the next update.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#237 Postby ElectricStorm » Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:35 am

Down to 60/60. Looks like this is going to become the third PTC to not become a TC, joining PTC 10 in 2017 and PTC 17E in 2019
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#238 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:35 am

Danielle will have to wait.

Data from the Air Force Hurricane Hunters and satellite images
indicate that the disturbance over the western Gulf of Mexico
remains disorganized.

The chances of the disturbance becoming a tropical cyclone appear
to be decreasing.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#239 Postby al78 » Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:08 am

Iceresistance wrote:This is one of the most oddball situations I've ever seen with a system like PTC 4.

It's not taking advantage of the very warm waters despite low wind shear (It has increased on Satellite, but I'm thinking that it's not limiting it.), there is not much dry air either, there must be something else going on.


Theme of the 2022 Atlantic hurricane season since 1st August.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#240 Postby Steve » Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:32 am

Juicing up as the cloud tops rise. As linked yesterday, the system is heading straight for a rain area in MJO Phase 1 regardless of classification.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/sat/sat ... product=ir
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