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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#21 Postby NotSparta » Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:48 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:The main problem with the 0zGFS is that it seems to be sprouting a random vortex on the north side of the wave near the islands which could be throwing the run off, let’s see if it models continue to show this or if it’s erroneous . Will have to watch the next few days


Also probably a little shear from the hurricane in the Gulf
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#22 Postby SouthFLTropics » Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:53 pm

GFS ensembles don’t seem to impressed either.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#23 Postby Iceresistance » Sun Aug 28, 2022 12:00 am



Looks like the ICON has caved in with the 12z NAVGEM
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#24 Postby skyline385 » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:22 am

Weaker 0Z Euro as well, its a disorganized mess right near the LA.

So for today's 0Z cycle, ECMWF, CMC and ICON have all trended weaker.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#25 Postby AtlanticWind » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:41 am

Weaker on Euro,but looks like less of an escape hatch to the north.

Models are not reliably for strengh that far out and am not liking the setup for us in Florida
at this point.
But lots of time ...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#26 Postby skyline385 » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:50 am

AtlanticWind wrote:Weaker on Euro,but looks like less of an escape hatch to the north.

Models are not reliably for strengh that far out and am not liking the setup for us in Florida
at this point.
But lots of time ...


Models are not reliable for anything 10 days out except showing a possible scenario, that is why I was talking about the trend.

When all models suddenly start trending weaker, then at the very least you know that the wave is not having a good time right now.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#27 Postby AtlanticWind » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:54 am

skyline385 wrote:
AtlanticWind wrote:Weaker on Euro,but looks like less of an escape hatch to the north.

Models are not reliably for strengh that far out and am not liking the setup for us in Florida
at this point.
But lots of time ...


Models are not reliable for anything 10 days out except showing a possible scenario, that is why I was talking about the trend.

When all models suddenly start trending weaker, then at the very least you know that the wave is not having a good time right now.


No model really had the wave doing much right now or in next 3 to 4 days , but the Euro showed
conditions in 5 + days being good for devolpment but backed off that tonight.
Still a long ways out for models .
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#28 Postby AtlanticWind » Sun Aug 28, 2022 3:09 am

00z Euro ensembles still a strong signal for devolpment.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#29 Postby AtlanticWind » Sun Aug 28, 2022 3:24 am

HMON and HWRF basically show no development thru the 5 days
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#30 Postby Jr0d » Sun Aug 28, 2022 4:38 am

Iceresistance wrote:


Looks like the ICON has caved in with the 12z NAVGEM


Dont like the High over the Carolinas that pops up at the end of the run, the EURO is showing it also. Worried it block a recurve before it reaches the CONUS.

The GFS has performed horribly this past month, it will likely cave before too long. Once it drops the phantom storm it will pick up on this one.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#31 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 28, 2022 5:35 am

Jr0d wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:


Looks like the ICON has caved in with the 12z NAVGEM


Dont like the High over the Carolinas that pops up at the end of the run, the EURO is showing it also. Worried it block a recurve before it reaches the CONUS.

The GFS has performed horribly this past month, it will likely cave before too long. Once it drops the phantom storm it will pick up on this one.


On 06z it has both strong.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#32 Postby SFLcane » Sun Aug 28, 2022 5:54 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#33 Postby ronjon » Sun Aug 28, 2022 5:55 am

This thing stays weak not good for the SE US. It won't gain much latitude prior to reaching the Bahamas and we all know how storms can rapidly intensify there.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#34 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 28, 2022 5:56 am

06Z GFS makes a very strong comeback and recurves towards Bermuda.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#35 Postby jlauderdal » Sun Aug 28, 2022 5:58 am


weakening on approach but more importantly, is the ridge
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#36 Postby jlauderdal » Sun Aug 28, 2022 5:59 am

cycloneye wrote:06Z GFS makes a very strong comeback and recurves towards Bermuda.

https://i.imgur.com/eSeIHMK.gif


recurves right into a ridge; we have seen that before with the GFS

GFS showing more intensity than the euro thus the more northern solution but certainly not intense enough to displace the ridge on its own. Very dangerous part of the basin, this is where hurricanes go for major intensification, euro weakens it on approach even though the environment looks good.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#37 Postby Blown Away » Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:38 am

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00z ECMWF - W shift.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#38 Postby tolakram » Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:39 am

0Z Euro showing a really unfavorable upper air environment, lots of shear. Current map shows how shear looks at the moment, and it's pretty rough.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#39 Postby Blown Away » Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:40 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#40 Postby jlauderdal » Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:47 am

tolakram wrote:0Z Euro showing a really unfavorable upper air environment, lots of shear. Current map shows how shear looks at the moment, and it's pretty rough.

https://i.imgur.com/UtGKiGe.png

https://i.imgur.com/76tcqCz.png


meanwhile, development chances keep increasing, nhc likes it 30/70
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