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Re: EPAC: KAY - Tropical Storm

#81 Postby aspen » Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:51 am

Ntxw wrote:Very cold CDO. If it can RI this will take off.

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That’s a pretty big if. Kay’s circulation is very large, and it looks to be impacted by some of that typical La Niña Mexican coast shear. A low end Cat 2 is probably the strongest it could feasibly get.
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Re: EPAC: KAY - Tropical Storm

#82 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:52 am

Ntxw wrote:Very cold CDO. If it can RI this will take off.

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It will be very interesting what recon find this afternoon.
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Re: EPAC: KAY - Tropical Storm

#83 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:28 am

In the NHC discussions they have mentioned that Kay has an excellent moisture envelope to draw from, and like how small storms can die quickly when conditions are not favorable any more, the opposite is true with large ones. They take a while to unwind, so I think it is quite possible that if this is on the east side of the guidance, there could be significant impacts on the US states of CA and AZ. It does not take much rain there to cause flooding as we have seen in this years monsoon.
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Re: EPAC: KAY - Tropical Storm

#84 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:42 am

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Tropical Storm Kay Advisory Number 5
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL EP122022
900 AM MDT Mon Sep 05 2022

...TROPICAL STORM WATCH ISSUED FOR THE SOUTHERN BAJA CALIFORNIA
PENINSULA...


SUMMARY OF 900 AM MDT...1500 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...15.8N 106.4W
ABOUT 260 MI...420 KM SSW OF MANZANILLO MEXICO
ABOUT 540 MI...870 KM SSE OF THE SOUTHERN TIP OF BAJA CALIFORNIA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...60 MPH...95 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 280 DEGREES AT 15 MPH...24 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...995 MB...29.39 INCHES




Tropical Storm Kay Discussion Number 5
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL EP122022
900 AM MDT Mon Sep 05 2022

Kay continues to produce very deep convection, but the storm is
asymmetric with its center estimated to be on the north side of the
main area of thunderstorms. The latest satellite intensity
estimates range from 45 to 55 kt, and based on that data, the
initial intensity is held at 50 kt for this advisory. Kay is a
sprawling tropical storm with its outer rain bands extending as far
out as 300 n mi from the center. The northern rain bands are
affecting the coast of southwestern Mexico, where
tropical-storm-force wind gusts are likely occurring. An Air Force
Hurricane Hunter aircraft is scheduled to investigate Kay later
today.

The storm is moving westward at 13 kt and continues to be steered by
a mid-level ridge to its north. The model guidance remains in
fairly good agreement that a turn to the west-northwest is likely to
begin tonight followed by a northwestward motion by Tuesday night.
Although this should take the core of Kay well to the west of the
southern tip of the Baja California peninsula, tropical storm
conditions are possible there by early Wednesday given its expansive
wind field. Kay will likely be very near the west-central portion
of the peninsula on Thursday and Friday, and hurricane watches could
be required for that region later today or tomorrow. The spread in
the GFS and ECMWF ensemble members is basically the same as it was
yesterday and shows solutions spanning a region from over
central Baja to a few hundred miles west of the peninsula. A turn
back to the left is expected by the end of the forecast period due
to a mid-level ridge to its north. Overall, the NHC track forecast
has changed little this cycle and lies near the HCCA model and a
consensus of the GFS and ECMWF.

Kay is still experiencing moderate north-northeasterly shear, which
is causing its asymmetric cloud pattern. This shear is expected to
persist, which should prevent rapid intensification. Nonetheless,
given the warm SSTs and high mid-level moisture, continued steady
strengthening is likely to continue during the next couple of days
and Kay will likely become a hurricane tonight or on Tuesday. Beyond
a couple of days, progressively cooler SSTs and a drier air mass
should end the strengthening trend and induce steady weakening. The
NHC intensity forecast is similar to the previous one and lies a
little above the HCCA and IVCN guidance, but below the latest SHIPS
output.

KEY MESSAGES:

1. Although the center of Kay is forecast to stay offshore of
southwest mainland Mexico, gusts to tropical-storm-force and
rough surf along the coast are expected through Tuesday. In
addition, heavy rainfall could lead to flash flooding, including
landslides, across portions of the Mexican Riviera and western
Mexico through Wednesday night.

2. Tropical storm conditions are possible across the southern
Baja California peninsula by early Wednesday, where a Tropical
Storm Watch has been issued.

3. Kay is expected to be a hurricane when it nears the central
portion of the Baja California peninsula later this week. While the
details of the long-range track and intensity forecasts
remain uncertain, there is increasing risk of significant wind,
surf, and rainfall impacts there, and a tropical storm or hurricane
watch could be issued for that region later today or Tuesday.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 05/1500Z 15.8N 106.4W 50 KT 60 MPH
12H 06/0000Z 16.2N 107.8W 60 KT 70 MPH
24H 06/1200Z 17.3N 109.6W 70 KT 80 MPH
36H 07/0000Z 18.7N 111.2W 80 KT 90 MPH
48H 07/1200Z 20.2N 112.4W 90 KT 105 MPH
60H 08/0000Z 22.0N 113.3W 90 KT 105 MPH
72H 08/1200Z 24.0N 114.0W 80 KT 90 MPH
96H 09/1200Z 27.5N 115.7W 60 KT 70 MPH
120H 10/1200Z 29.7N 119.1W 45 KT 50 MPH

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Re: EPAC: KAY - Tropical Storm

#85 Postby Sciencerocks » Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:18 am

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Re: EPAC: KAY - Tropical Storm

#86 Postby Astromanía » Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:58 am

Close to be a hurricane
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#87 Postby Yellow Evan » Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:03 pm

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Supports 60-65.
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#88 Postby Yellow Evan » Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:13 pm

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Re: EPAC: KAY - Tropical Storm

#89 Postby Ed_2001 » Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:45 pm

Another risk to look out for, especially during California’s peak dry and wildfire season and coming on the heels of an intense heatwave :darrow:
 https://twitter.com/Weather_West/status/1566826549000544258


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Re: EPAC: KAY - Tropical Storm

#90 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:46 pm

A. 12E (KAY)

B. 05/1730Z

C. 14.9N

D. 106.8W

E. THREE/GOES-W

F. T3.5/3.5

G. IR/EIR/VIS/SSMIS

H. REMARKS...8/10 BANDING ON A LOG10 SPIRAL YIELDS A DT OF A 3.5. MET
IS 2.5 DUE TO A RAPID DEVELOPING TREND OVER THE LAST 24 HOURS WHERE THE
SYSTEM DID NOT ANY REAL ORGANIZATION AT THE TIME. PT IS 3.0.THE FT IS
BASED ON THE DT.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

05/1230Z 15.0N 106.1W SSMIS


...NGUYEN
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Re: EPAC: KAY - Tropical Storm

#91 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 05, 2022 2:32 pm

An eye?

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Re: EPAC: KAY - Tropical Storm

#92 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Sep 05, 2022 2:35 pm

:uarrow: Yup. Looks like the large size is not hindering it.
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#93 Postby ElectricStorm » Mon Sep 05, 2022 2:37 pm

I could definitely see a major out of this, hopefully it stays further west and isn't destructive
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Re: EPAC: KAY - Tropical Storm

#94 Postby aspen » Mon Sep 05, 2022 2:41 pm

It’s been nearly three hours since recon stopped transmitting. I think they probably turned back because of their communication issues. Awful luck with the AF planes today.
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Re: EPAC: KAY - Hurricane

#95 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 05, 2022 3:58 pm

BULLETIN
Hurricane Kay Advisory Number 6
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL EP122022
300 PM MDT Mon Sep 05 2022

...KAY STRENGTHENS INTO A HURRICANE...
...OUTER RAIN BANDS CONTINUE TO AFFECT SOUTHWESTERN MEXICO...


SUMMARY OF 300 PM MDT...2100 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...15.6N 107.3W
ABOUT 305 MI...495 KM SW OF MANZANILLO MEXICO
ABOUT 530 MI...855 KM SSE OF THE SOUTHERN TIP OF BAJA CALIFORNIA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...80 MPH...130 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...WNW OR 295 DEGREES AT 10 MPH...17 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...981 MB...28.97 INCHES



Hurricane Kay Discussion Number 6
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL EP122022
300 PM MDT Mon Sep 05 2022

Satellite images indicate that banding features have become better
defined during the past several hours. The low-level center is now
more embedded in the deep convection, and Kay has strengthened
significantly. An ASCAT pass from around 16Z showed peak winds in
the 50-55 kt range on the system's east side, and the 18Z Dvorak
estimates were both 3.5/55 kt from TAFB and SAB. The Air Force
Hurricane Hunters are currently investigating Kay and the aircraft
recently reported a minimum pressure of 981 mb, which is notably
lower than previously estimated. The aircraft also measured
maximum SFMR and flight-level winds to support increasing the
intensity to 70 kt.

The storm continues to move westward, but at a slightly slower pace
of around 10 kt. The model guidance remains in fairly good agreement
that a turn to the west-northwest is likely to begin tonight
followed by a northwestward motion by Tuesday night. Although this
should take the core of Kay well to the west of the southern tip of
the Baja California peninsula, tropical storm conditions are
possible there by early Wednesday given its expansive wind field.
Kay will likely be very near the west-central portion of the
peninsula on Thursday and Friday, and hurricane watches could be
required for that region tonight or tomorrow. After that time, a
turn to the west seems likely as Kay weakens and is steered by a
low- to mid-level ridge building over the southwestern United
States. The NHC track forecast is a little to the south of the
previous one in the short term, which is based on the initial motion
and position, but is otherwise largely unchanged.

Steady strengthening is expected to continue during the next couple
of days as Kay remains over warm SSTs and embedded in a moist air
mass. In addition, the storm is forecast to move into a lower wind
shear environment in 36 to 48 hours. The NHC intensity forecast is
near the high end of the model guidance. Beyond a couple of days,
however, progressively cooler SSTs and a drier air mass should end
the strengthening trend and induce steady weakening.

KEY MESSAGES:

1. Gusts to tropical-storm-force and rough surf along the coast of
southwestern Mexico are expected through Tuesday. In addition,
heavy rainfall could lead to flash flooding, including landslides,
across portions of the Mexican Riviera and western Mexico through
Wednesday night.

2. Tropical storm conditions are possible across the southern
Baja California peninsula by early Wednesday, where a Tropical
Storm Watch has been issued.

3. While the details of the long-range track and intensity
forecasts remain uncertain, there is increasing risk of significant
wind, surf, and rainfall impacts across the central portion of the
Baja California peninsula. A tropical storm or hurricane watch
could be issued for that region tonight or Tuesday.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 05/2100Z 15.6N 107.3W 70 KT 80 MPH
12H 06/0600Z 16.2N 108.7W 80 KT 90 MPH
24H 06/1800Z 17.5N 110.5W 90 KT 105 MPH
36H 07/0600Z 18.8N 112.1W 95 KT 110 MPH
48H 07/1800Z 20.5N 113.2W 95 KT 110 MPH
60H 08/0600Z 22.4N 113.9W 85 KT 100 MPH
72H 08/1800Z 24.5N 114.6W 75 KT 85 MPH
96H 09/1800Z 27.8N 116.6W 55 KT 65 MPH
120H 10/1800Z 29.6N 119.6W 40 KT 45 MPH

$$
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#96 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Sep 05, 2022 4:00 pm

...KAY STRENGTHENS INTO A HURRICANE... ...OUTER RAIN BANDS CONTINUE TO AFFECT SOUTHWESTERN MEXICO...


3:00 PM MDT Mon Sep 5
Location: 15.6°N 107.3°W
Moving: WNW at 10 mph
Min pressure: 981 mb
Max sustained: 80 mph
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#98 Postby Yellow Evan » Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:03 pm

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Re: EPAC: KAY - Hurricane

#99 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:06 pm


There is a dry slot entering in from the north, but it's likely going to be filtered out by the convection rather quickly.
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