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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#41 Postby toad strangler » Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:43 am

Slight bend to the right. Maybe Big Bend?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#42 Postby Fancy1001 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:44 am

InfernoFlameCat wrote:Slams into the Florida Panhandle. In the same spot as Michael did.

No, Michael hit the left side of the panhandle, while this storm hit the right side.
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ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#43 Postby skyline385 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:45 am

tomatkins wrote:
skyline385 wrote:Also in case anyone missed it, 98L already has an elongated circulation so it could possibly develop ahead of schedule


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Are we seeing the familiar stronger = earlier turn north dynamic. Because if so, early strengthening could be a saving grace for the western Caribbean and possibly the US as well.

I don’t think that would matter much until the ridge weakens. A stronger system would then make a faster turn but it would still be near Cuba already.


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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#44 Postby Javlin » Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:50 am

Ten days out got plenty of time to watch if our forecast holds no problem and it should temps 64' 9/28/22 but Fl/GA??
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#45 Postby Stormcenter » Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:51 am

Look for the continued shifts westward…..think Ivan.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#46 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:51 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#47 Postby BobHarlem » Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:53 am

12z gfs a little left of the 6z. (Tidbits is overloaded with traffic now it seems)

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#48 Postby ronjon » Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:54 am

12z CMC almost identical to 12z GFS on strength and timing. Into Florida big bend in 940s mb range.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#49 Postby HurricaneBelle » Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:54 am

This run would be disastrous for Tallahassee
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#50 Postby crownweather » Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:57 am

ronjon wrote:12z CMC almost identical to 12z GFS on strength and timing. Into Florida big bend in 940s mb range.


It actually looked like the 12Z CMC buried 98L into the Bay of Campeche by 240 hrs. Looks to far west to me.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#51 Postby shah83 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:57 am

A couple of things to note:

A storm of that size and strength is going to have titanic waves bouncing all around the Gulf. Right hand side, Tampa, et al, are going to see a materially damaging storm surge.

Second, this track absolutely has Tallahassee with full-blown at least SS-2 hurricane conditions, like Michael, Georgia will have a strong inland hurricane.

Third, this is going to absolutely whack the East Coast with rain and tornados.

This is, all, in all, a pretty bad run even if not charismatically disastrous like a Tampa Bay landfall.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#52 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:01 pm

I think the models will flip to an East Coast threat in a few days. Ensembles show this as a possibility.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#53 Postby Fancy1001 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:05 pm

ronjon wrote:12z CMC almost identical to 12z GFS on strength and timing. Into Florida big bend in 940s mb range.

Are you sure about that, the CMC that I looking at has it in the bay of Campeche
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#54 Postby AutoPenalti » Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:06 pm

ronjon wrote:12z CMC almost identical to 12z GFS on strength and timing. Into Florida big bend in 940s mb range.

Not sure what run that is.
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GFS (5:30 AM/PM, 11:30 AM/PM)
HWRF, GFDL, UKMET, NAVGEM (6:30-8:00 AM/PM, 12:30-2:00 AM/PM)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#55 Postby BobHarlem » Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:06 pm

ronjon wrote:12z CMC almost identical to 12z GFS on strength and timing. Into Florida big bend in 940s mb range.


Double check that, the Canadian seems to head into the bay of campeche (again) very close to where the 0z had it. 12z Icon starts to bend north toward the Yucatan Channel in the Western Caribbean this time (0z was moving more toward the Yucatan Peninsula)

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#56 Postby Fancy1001 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:10 pm

HWRF is off to a good start.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#57 Postby AutoPenalti » Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:16 pm

HWRF has some land interaction that slightly weakens it.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#58 Postby Spacecoast » Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:24 pm

12z GEFS shifts west from 6z
trend:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#59 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:29 pm

Spacecoast wrote:12z GEFS shifts west from 6z
trend:
https://i.ibb.co/hVrQ1kQ/gfs-ememb-lowlocs-watl-fh216-trend.gif

Not good at all, we were looking for a continuing eastward trend, for now, its an eastern gulf, north gulf coast hit with the whole peninsula felling it in one form or another on the dirty side. One run of course but the back and forth in a range is not what we want to see. Euro up next.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#60 Postby SFLcane » Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:29 pm

Spacecoast wrote:12z GEFS shifts west from 6z
trend:
https://i.ibb.co/hVrQ1kQ/gfs-ememb-lowlocs-watl-fh216-trend.gif


Not much of a shift still good chunk hook NE into Florida.

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