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Re: ATL: NICOLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1481 Postby GCANE » Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:31 pm

CAPE rapidly increasing NE of JAX, up to 3500
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Re: ATL: NICOLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1482 Postby GCANE » Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:33 pm

Significant Tornado Parameter raising to moderate level.
Still offshore but may move inland later today.
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Re: ATL: NICOLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1483 Postby GCANE » Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:35 pm

Feeder Band off the coast intensifying rapidly with very strong lightning.
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Re: ATL: NICOLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1484 Postby cycloneye » Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:36 pm

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Re: ATL: NICOLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1485 Postby mpic » Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:37 pm

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mpic wrote:Any observations or warnings for Fort Myers? My weather map is showing highest winds of 18mph and hoping it's true. Have friends there who are worried sick


Nothing close to TS winds in Ft. Myers. Just some wind gusts to 30-35 mph.


Thank you so much! They left for Ian and have some PTSD.
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Re: ATL: NICOLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1487 Postby GCANE » Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:50 pm

New tornado watch going up
Extends to the GA / SC border including Savannah
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Re: ATL: NICOLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1488 Postby PavelGaborik10 » Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:52 pm

Is that 84 MPH gust in Daytona Beach the only official hurricane forced gust recorded in the entire State?
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Re: ATL: NICOLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1489 Postby cycloneye » Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:53 pm

Our friend Mark Sudduth reports what his anemometer had on the winds.

 https://twitter.com/hurricanetrack/status/1590763652654649344


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Re: ATL: NICOLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1490 Postby wxman57 » Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:01 pm

I'm seeing reports of highest wind gusts, but nothing of highest sustained wind. Hurricanes are classified by max sustained wind, not gusts. Any sustained wind on land remotely close to 64 kts/74 mph? I know, friction will reduce winds inland. How about coastal buoys or piers? In my opinion, Nicole struck as about a 50-55kt TS and not a hurricane.We should see at least one coastal report of a sustained 55-60 kt wind to justify calling it a hurricane. Yes, I'm bitter because NHC's upgrade last night cost me the hurricane contest and $100.
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Re: ATL: NICOLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1491 Postby GCANE » Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:04 pm

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Re: ATL: NICOLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1492 Postby GCANE » Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:16 pm

CoC back over the water, in the NE GoM
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Re: ATL: NICOLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1493 Postby cycloneye » Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:18 pm

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Re: ATL: NICOLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1494 Postby GCANE » Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:33 pm

Recon heading into Nicole - maybe?
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Re: ATL: NICOLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1495 Postby jlauderdal » Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:54 pm

PavelGaborik10 wrote:Is that 84 MPH gust in Daytona Beach the only official hurricane forced gust recorded in the entire State?

No, they had gusts that high on the Cape.....their wind instruments are pretty good :D
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Re: ATL: NICOLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1496 Postby Jr0d » Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:59 pm

wxman57 wrote:I'm seeing reports of highest wind gusts, but nothing of highest sustained wind. Hurricanes are classified by max sustained wind, not gusts. Any sustained wind on land remotely close to 64 kts/74 mph? I know, friction will reduce winds inland. How about coastal buoys or piers? In my opinion, Nicole struck as about a 50-55kt TS and not a hurricane.We should see at least one coastal report of a sustained 55-60 kt wind to justify calling it a hurricane. Yes, I'm bitter because NHC's upgrade last night cost me the hurricane contest and $100.


Sustained 71mph, gust to.84mph at Daytona Beach was the highest I found. Unfortunately after this, the anemometer went offline @430am

https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries? ... W&hours=72
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Re: ATL: NICOLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1497 Postby LarryWx » Thu Nov 10, 2022 2:03 pm

 By looking at the county by county power outage map, one can get a good idea of where the highest winds were. In FL going up the coast, significant numbers of outages don't start til Indian River county, where Nicole made landfall. The next county up, Brevard, has by far the highest number and percentage in the state with 25% out (as mentioned above). Significant outages go as far north as St. John's (8%) in NE FL. Even way up here in SAV, my power was out for a couple of hours and just came back on.

In stark contrast, SE FL (which was on the weak side of the eye) has only a very low % out (under 2% St. Lucie county southward). 

 Although well inland, Orange county (Orlando) has 6% out and Marion county has 9% out. In NW FL, Madison county at 19% has the second highest percentage out! Does anyone know why?

 Overall, for a minimal hurricane, Nicole has been pretty impactful on the strong side of the eye. This was aided by a strong gradient due to the big high that was to the north.



 
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Re: ATL: NICOLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1498 Postby Hurricane Mike » Thu Nov 10, 2022 2:05 pm

A nasty late-season storm. Only the 3rd hurricane to hit Florida in November in 100 years.

New video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp1GwFtdizg
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Re: ATL: NICOLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1499 Postby LarryWx » Thu Nov 10, 2022 2:07 pm

Hurricane Mike wrote:A nasty late-season storm. Only the 3rd hurricane to hit Florida in November in 100 years.

New video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp1GwFtdizg


I'm pretty confident that most minimal hurricanes haven't had nearly this much impact overall.
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Re: ATL: NICOLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1500 Postby Jr0d » Thu Nov 10, 2022 2:11 pm

@LarryWx
My parents have no power in Cocoa Beach, Brevard county.
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