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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#121 Postby cycloneye » Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:46 pm

Pressure down to 1008 mbs.

AL, 94, 2023101800, , BEST, 0, 118N, 447W, 30, 1008, LO


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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#122 Postby abajan » Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:50 pm

cycloneye wrote:Pressure down to 1008 mbs.

AL, 94, 2023101800, , BEST, 0, 118N, 447W, 30, 1008, LO


https://i.imgur.com/ApTyrCm.png

Yes, and there's a slight bend in the track back towards the west too.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#123 Postby Ianswfl » Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:57 pm

abajan wrote:
cycloneye wrote:Pressure down to 1008 mbs.

AL, 94, 2023101800, , BEST, 0, 118N, 447W, 30, 1008, LO


https://i.imgur.com/ApTyrCm.png

Yes, and there's a slight bend in the track back towards the west too.


All interesting to watch down the road. 12z euro has it weak and bending back due west just north of Haiti with a strong high. Trof coming in at the end of teh run but who knows if that stalls or not over FL. GFS shows stronger ridging on the 18z run. But totally out to lunch on 94l. Pattern later in Oct favors warmer temps, stronger ridging in the southeast though. Something to watch.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#124 Postby abajan » Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:29 am

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
200 AM EDT Wed Oct 18 2023

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

1. Central Tropical Atlantic (AL94):
Showers and thunderstorms associated with a broad area of low
pressure located about 1000 miles east of the Windward Islands
continue to show signs of organization. Environmental conditions
are expected to remain conducive for gradual development, and a
tropical depression is likely to form during the next day or so
while the system moves westward to west-northwestward across the
central and western tropical Atlantic. Interests in the Lesser
Antilles should monitor the progress of this system. Additional
information, including gale warnings, can be found in High Seas
Forecasts issued by the National Weather Service. Regardless of
development, this system has the potential to bring gusty winds,
heavy rainfall, and flooding to portions of the Lesser Antilles
beginning Friday.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...high...80 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...high...80 percent.

High Seas Forecasts issued by the National Weather Service
can be found under AWIPS header NFDHSFAT1, WMO header FZNT01
KWBC, and online at ocean.weather.gov/shtml/NFDHSFAT1.php

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AL, 94, 2023101806, , BEST, 0, 122N, 461W, 30, 1008, LO


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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#125 Postby cycloneye » Wed Oct 18, 2023 6:50 am

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
800 AM EDT Wed Oct 18 2023

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

1. East of the Windward Islands (AL94):
Showers and thunderstorms associated with a broad area of low
pressure located about 850 miles east of the Windward Islands
continue to show signs of organization, however it is not yet clear
if the system has a well-defined surface circulation. Environmental
conditions are expected to remain conducive for additional
development, and a tropical depression is likely to form during the
next day or so while the system moves westward to west-northwestward
across the western tropical Atlantic toward the Lesser Antilles.
Interests in the Lesser Antilles should monitor the progress of this
system, and watches may be required for some of the islands later
today. Additional information, including storm warnings, can be
found in High Seas Forecasts issued by the National Weather Service.
Regardless of development, this system has the potential to bring
gusty winds, heavy rainfall, and flooding to portions of the Lesser
Antilles beginning Friday.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...high...80 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...high...80 percent.

High Seas Forecasts issued by the National Weather Service can be
found under AWIPS header NFDHSFAT1, WMO header FZNT01 KWBC, and
online at ocean.weather.gov/shtml/NFDHSFAT1.php

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#126 Postby wxman57 » Wed Oct 18, 2023 7:15 am

It seems that it's mainly the GFS that develops this wave. I don't doubt that it may develop enough of a circulation for the NHC to classify it. If it has a single squall, then it will be called a TS. That said, the faster it does develop, the earlier the northerly turn. If it remains a wave, it may move across the NE Caribbean, perhaps producing 3-6 inches of rain. A track clipping the NE Caribbean would likely keep TS wind east of the islands, as I don't expect much weather west of the center.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#127 Postby Nimbus » Wed Oct 18, 2023 7:29 am

Ianswfl wrote:
abajan wrote:
cycloneye wrote:Pressure down to 1008 mbs.

AL, 94, 2023101800, , BEST, 0, 118N, 447W, 30, 1008, LO


https://i.imgur.com/ApTyrCm.png

Yes, and there's a slight bend in the track back towards the west too.


All interesting to watch down the road. 12z euro has it weak and bending back due west just north of Haiti with a strong high. Trof coming in at the end of teh run but who knows if that stalls or not over FL. GFS shows stronger ridging on the 18z run. But totally out to lunch on 94l. Pattern later in Oct favors warmer temps, stronger ridging in the southeast though. Something to watch.


BEST has this about 11.8N but looks more like 11.3 N to me as it really hasn't got a center yet.
Trough would dig and pick up anything stronger than a wave before Florida but the island forecast still looks a little unsure.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#128 Postby abajan » Wed Oct 18, 2023 7:47 am

The turn towards the west continues:
AL, 94, 2023101812, , BEST, 0, 124N, 486W, 30, 1008, LO


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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#129 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:03 am

Maybe it's just me, but this is looking just about as good as it ever has. For the first time I am seeing westerly inflow of the south side. I think this will develop within the nest day or two. I have also noticed the intensity models are on the upswing again. The models all seem to initialize this a bit too far north
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#130 Postby underthwx » Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:24 am

ScottNAtlanta wrote:Maybe it's just me, but this is looking just about as good as it ever has. For the first time I am seeing westerly inflow of the south side. I think this will develop within the nest day or two. I have also noticed the intensity models are on the upswing again. The models all seem to initialize this a bit too far north

It's not just you Scott, I agree, as probably everyone does that 94L is looking healthy this morning, and to me, looks fairly low in latitude?...Xman 57s previous post seems most sensible to me as a bystander, but I can't help wonder, like you mention Scott, if 94Ls intensity will do as the modeks are hinting at?....like they say, bears watching...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#131 Postby cycloneye » Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:02 am

Ummm, 12z Best Track updated up to 35kt and pressure down to 1007 mbs.

AL, 94, 2023101812, , BEST, 0, 124N, 486W, 35, 1007, LO


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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#132 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:36 am

This was around 6 Hours ago, first found this on Discord

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#133 Postby Sciencerocks » Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:43 am

Looks like a well defined LLC and I'd expect an upgrade at anytime. ;)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#134 Postby AubreyStorm » Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:44 am

By Dr. Levi Cowan

Invest #94L is becoming better organized, with the wave cusp now rolling into what may be a closed circulation, if a bit elongated. 94L could become a tropical storm at any time, and @NHC_Atlantic may issue Tropical Storm Watches soon for the Leeward Islands, as a west-northwestward track will take 94L close to the islands on Friday or Saturday.

Which islands experience heavy weather will depend on which side of 94L they fall on. Westerly wind shear is likely to keep the western/southern side of the circulation drier and less windy than the eastern/northern side. There is some spread in model forecasts for the exact track near the islands, so anyone between Puerto Rico and the Lesser Antilles has a chance to see Tropical Storm conditions. The track possibilities should narrow once a tropical storm forms.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#135 Postby cycloneye » Wed Oct 18, 2023 12:45 pm

For Msbee, Patti, GustyWind, watches will be up later this afternoon.

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
200 PM EDT Wed Oct 18 2023

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

1. East of the Windward Islands (AL94):
Recent visible satellite images indicate that the circulation
associated with an area of low pressure located about 700 miles
east of the Windward Islands is gradually becoming better defined.
In addition, the associated shower and thunderstorm activity is
becoming more organized, and satellite-derived wind data indicated
that the system is already producing winds to tropical storm force.
Continued development is anticipated, and a tropical storm is
expected to form later today or tonight while moving westward or
west-northwestward toward the Lesser Antilles.

Interests in the Lesser Antilles should continue to monitor the
progress of the disturbance. Advisories may be initiated on this
system as early as later this afternoon, and could include the
issuance of watches for some of the islands. Regardless of
development, this system has the potential to bring gusty winds,
heavy rainfall, and flash flooding to portions of the Lesser
Antilles beginning on Friday. Additional information, including
storm warnings, can be found in High Seas Forecasts issued by the
National Weather Service.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...high...90 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...high...90 percent.

High Seas Forecasts issued by the National Weather Service can be
found under AWIPS header NFDHSFAT1, WMO header FZNT01 KWBC, and
online at ocean.weather.gov/shtml/NFDHSFAT1.php

Forecaster Berg
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#136 Postby abajan » Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:54 pm

AL, 94, 2023101818, , BEST, 0, 130N, 510W, 35, 1007, LO


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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#137 Postby floridasun » Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:53 pm

Sciencerocks wrote:https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/1686/jv2X4Y.gif

I am floored that this isn't being upgraded at 5pm. That is a well defined LLC and already producing tropical storm force winds.

Not 5pm nhc say iikely watch later today
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#138 Postby DorkyMcDorkface » Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:11 pm

floridasun wrote:
Sciencerocks wrote:https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/1686/jv2X4Y.gif

I am floored that this isn't being upgraded at 5pm. That is a well defined LLC and already producing tropical storm force winds.

Not 5pm nhc say iikely watch later today


Looks like it will be 5:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#139 Postby DorkyMcDorkface » Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:13 pm

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Re: ATL: TAMMY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#140 Postby aspen » Wed Oct 18, 2023 4:03 pm

Wow, two named MDR storms in October during a strong El Niño. Even if Tammy ends up as a repeat of Sean, it’s still an impressive feat.
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