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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1961 Postby underthwx » Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:32 am

Had me an appointment at the VA this morning, while waiting, I was talking to a buddy of mine, who has family in Dunedin, hope I spelled correctly. He was wondering about what conditions are expected there, timing, that sort of thing Be safe everyone...
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1962 Postby Steve » Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:33 am

d3v123 wrote:Anyone know what is to be expected weather wise for the Bradenton and St Pete area based off how the storm is moving/tracking?


https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.p ... t=27.49995

That's a little bit off the coast which obviously the closer one is to the coast, the higher the winds are likely to be. Main thing to look out for in my opinion would be outer band tornadoes and feeder bands that probably set up NW-SE (or NNW-SSE) across the Peninsula. Could be some deluges. Could also be mostly offshore if it stays far enough out before fading NNE/NE.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1963 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:34 am

underthwx wrote:Had me an appointment at the VA this morning, while waiting, I was talking to a buddy of mine, who has family in Dunedin, hope I spelled correctly. He was wondering about what conditions are expected there, timing, that sort of thing Be safe everyone...

You spelled Dunedin correctly, it's on the northern fringe of the Tampa Bay Metro.

May miss them to the west, but possible TS winds and a lot of rain, plus the possibility of tornadoes.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1964 Postby Steve » Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:35 am

underthwx wrote:Had me an appointment at the VA this morning, while waiting, I was talking to a buddy of mine, who has family in Dunedin, hope I spelled correctly. He was wondering about what conditions are expected there, timing, that sort of thing Be safe everyone...


TS conditions tonight and tomorrow per the TB NWS office (possibly H conditions, but that remains to be seen). They're usually pretty good.
https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.p ... 8999999998
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1965 Postby underthwx » Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:35 am

Iceresistance wrote:
underthwx wrote:Had me an appointment at the VA this morning, while waiting, I was talking to a buddy of mine, who has family in Dunedin, hope I spelled correctly. He was wondering about what conditions are expected there, timing, that sort of thing Be safe everyone...

You spelled Dunedin correctly, it's on the northern fringe of the Tampa Bay Metro.

May miss them to the west, but possible TS winds and a lot of rain, plus the possibility of tornadoes.
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Thanks Ice....
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1966 Postby Highteeld » Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:35 am

Idalia might bomb like Michael did in 2018. All of the models will miss it too. Starting to get very concerned.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1967 Postby GCANE » Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:38 am

Couple towers now rotating on the eyewall
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1968 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:38 am

Lowest Extrapolated at 973.6, and there is a strong pressure gradient.

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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1969 Postby MetroMike » Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:38 am

Got an interesting Radar view from Key West

https://www.sfwmd.gov/weather-radar/cur ... scale-loop

Hope it stays online, now its blanking out smh
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1970 Postby GCANE » Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:40 am

If RI is truly starting, it may continue to 26.5N, the top of the CAPE ridge.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1971 Postby Highteeld » Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:41 am

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Shear conditions improve tonight. This could be a major, major problem. ERI is possible in these kind of set ups.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1972 Postby Recurve » Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:47 am

Here in St. Petersburg, we've held off on putting up shutters. The remarkably consistent track forecasts have me feeling confident -- at 10:30 am Tuesday -- of not getting hurricane-force winds from Idalia tonight. HOWEVER, I urge anyone along the coast of Pinellas County and points north to Tallahassee -- to heed any evac orders. Storm surge is a killer, kids.

Looks like center will be anywhere from 60 nm to 100+ nm west of the St. Pete area. Obviously on the dirty side and there are bound to be some hellacious rain and gusts late tonight. Stay safe all.

I'm eager to see 11 am forecast. I don't expect much to change, but with the environmental conditions and potential for catastrophic flooding and wind somewhere in the Big Bend area, I wouldn't be surprised to see an intensity forecast increase. But then the modeling has gotten so good, even with notoriously tricky intensity forecasting, that what NHC has been saying all along, Cat 3, will likely hold. That will be bad enough for the landfall around and just south.

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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1973 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:47 am

Latest VDM confirms a NNW jog, and the eye got smaller, but not pinhole.

VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL102023
A. 29/13:30:53Z
B. 24.29 deg N 084.85 deg W
C. 700 MB 2931 m
D. 978 mb
E. 310 deg 10 kt
F. CLOSED
G. C26
H. 45 kt
I. 217 deg 9 nm 13:28:40Z
J. 317 deg 51 kt
K. 222 deg 13 nm 13:27:46Z
L. 70 kt
M. 055 deg 15 nm 13:34:45Z
N. 163 deg 71 kt
O. 056 deg 20 nm 13:35:59Z
P. 12 C / 3059 m
Q. 17 C / 3064 m
R. 15 C / NA
S. 12345 / 7
T. 0.01 / 1 nm
U. NOAA3 1010A IDALIA OB 25
MAX FL WIND 71 KT 056 / 20 NM 13:35:59Z
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1974 Postby weatherSnoop » Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:49 am

Iceresistance wrote:
underthwx wrote:Had me an appointment at the VA this morning, while waiting, I was talking to a buddy of mine, who has family in Dunedin, hope I spelled correctly. He was wondering about what conditions are expected there, timing, that sort of thing Be safe everyone...

You spelled Dunedin correctly, it's on the northern fringe of the Tampa Bay Metro.

May miss them to the west, but possible TS winds and a lot of rain, plus the possibility of tornadoes.
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Don't forget a dangerous surge!
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1975 Postby NAVAIDNICK » Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:50 am

d3v123 wrote:Anyone know what is to be expected weather wise for the Bradenton and St Pete area based off how the storm is moving/tracking?


Go to the NWS Tampa website and put in your zip code. That will tell you everything you need to know about the forecasted conditions in your area. While there are some meteorologists in this forum, they aren't here to give customized forecasts.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1976 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:50 am

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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1977 Postby robbielyn » Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:50 am

TallyTracker wrote:I seem to recall a pro saying before to follow the storm’s thicker outer bands to have a general idea on short term direction. In this case the large bands are mostly on the north with some smaller eastern bands. Does anyone else remember this? :?:

I dont remember a pro met saying it but for Charley I remember Nexrad saying it and he could predict these incoming close storms with the ruc2. I wonder how he is doing and where he is at?
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1978 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:50 am

weatherSnoop wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:
underthwx wrote:Had me an appointment at the VA this morning, while waiting, I was talking to a buddy of mine, who has family in Dunedin, hope I spelled correctly. He was wondering about what conditions are expected there, timing, that sort of thing Be safe everyone...

You spelled Dunedin correctly, it's on the northern fringe of the Tampa Bay Metro.

May miss them to the west, but possible TS winds and a lot of rain, plus the possibility of tornadoes.
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Don't forget a dangerous surge!


Sorry, I forgot that part. :oops:
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1979 Postby aspen » Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:52 am

Iceresistance wrote:Latest VDM confirms a NNW jog, and the eye got smaller, but not pinhole.

VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL102023
A. 29/13:30:53Z
B. 24.29 deg N 084.85 deg W
C. 700 MB 2931 m
D. 978 mb
E. 310 deg 10 kt
F. CLOSED
G. C26
H. 45 kt
I. 217 deg 9 nm 13:28:40Z
J. 317 deg 51 kt
K. 222 deg 13 nm 13:27:46Z
L. 70 kt
M. 055 deg 15 nm 13:34:45Z
N. 163 deg 71 kt
O. 056 deg 20 nm 13:35:59Z
P. 12 C / 3059 m
Q. 17 C / 3064 m
R. 15 C / NA
S. 12345 / 7
T. 0.01 / 1 nm
U. NOAA3 1010A IDALIA OB 25
MAX FL WIND 71 KT 056 / 20 NM 13:35:59Z

It’s finally close now, which is backed up by the new eyewall convection seen on visible satellite imagery. One of the earlier VDMs reported a spiral structure.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1980 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:52 am

The eyewall is looking healthier on radar, and it’s also getting those meso gotta starting to spin up inside it. I only see one as of now but the storm is intensifying, and quite rapidly at that.
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