ATL: IDALIA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2021 Postby Coolcruiseman » Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:58 am

Highteeld wrote:Straight up rocket fuel until landfall

https://i.imgur.com/GVObJU7.png


And that rocket fuel in the Atlantic is also concerning if it does indeed loop back.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2022 Postby ElectricStorm » Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:00 am

aspen wrote:It kind of looks like there’s a bit of a dry tongue in Idalia’s CDO. Or maybe it’s just an illusion from the rotating hot tower.

I noticed that too, we'll see if it can close off the eyewall and mix it out
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2023 Postby jdjaguar » Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:01 am

Son lives in Indian Shores where the elevation is 9.2.
NHC is projecting 4-7ft surge in that area but it may coincide with a "king tide".

Question is does the NHC take that into account? If not, should he expect higher than 7ft?
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2024 Postby PavelGaborik10 » Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:09 am

ElectricStorm wrote:
aspen wrote:It kind of looks like there’s a bit of a dry tongue in Idalia’s CDO. Or maybe it’s just an illusion from the rotating hot tower.

I noticed that too, we'll see if it can close off the eyewall and mix it out


Recon confirms a closed eyewall, this is likely the eye attempting to clear out.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2025 Postby caneman » Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:11 am

jdjaguar wrote:Son lives in Indian Shores where the elevation is 9.2.
NHC is projecting 4-7ft surge in that area but it may coincide with a "king tide".

Question is does the NHC take that into account? If not, should he expect higher than 7ft?


I live very near there off a finger on the intercoastal. Saw one dock washed over already and just 1 ft. From the top of the seawall. That is just mostly from King High tide too.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2026 Postby Highteeld » Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:11 am

Looks like dry air on radar too. notable reflectivity gap where that "dry air" is on satellite
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#2027 Postby underthwx » Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:15 am

Highteeld wrote:Looks like dry air on radar too. notable reflectivity gap where that "dry air" is on satellite


Do you mean on the Northwest side of Idalia? Looking at it on water vapor imagery, it looks like dryer air?
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#2028 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:15 am

Looks like organization to me. This is a pretty classic look.

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#2029 Postby AJC3 » Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:17 am

TFW you see a NHC Specialist post this... :eek:

 https://twitter.com/EricBlake12/status/1696551760993616257


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#2030 Postby HurricaneEnzo » Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:18 am

They may be talking about the partial dark ring on the Northern quadrant. I believe that is just shadow from taller nearby cloudtops however.

tolakram wrote:Looks like organization to me. This is a pretty classic look.

https://i.imgur.com/da4rqjc.png
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2031 Postby Jr0d » Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:20 am

We are experiencing a heavy rain band in Key West . Sand Key has had sustained winds up to 36kts, gusts to 53kts, so by definition tropical storm conditions.
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#2032 Postby johngaltfla » Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:21 am

Sanibel wrote:Dangerous Dvorak developing...

Heavy small drop rain here...

Wind picking up but light...

Fist...


Good to see you Sanibel. Hopefully our part of the state gets the lighter stuff and we get to sit this one out. We need the rain, not the surge or wind.
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#2033 Postby xironman » Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:21 am

Shear ... Nope
Dry Air ... Nope
Cooler Water Temps .. Nope

BTW: The feeder band going over Cuba is epic
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2034 Postby johngaltfla » Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:22 am

tolakram wrote:Looks like organization to me. This is a pretty classic look.

https://i.imgur.com/da4rqjc.png


Yup. Big comma with tightening inner circle. It should have time to expand at least once with a larger windfield before landfall unfortunately. The GOM never fails to disappoint.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2035 Postby Dean4Storms » Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:22 am

jdjaguar wrote:Son lives in Indian Shores where the elevation is 9.2.
NHC is projecting 4-7ft surge in that area but it may coincide with a "king tide".

Question is does the NHC take that into account? If not, should he expect higher than 7ft?


Always error on the side of worse case scenario. Remember, there will be wave action from the wind on top of that 7 ft surge!!
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#2036 Postby Category5Kaiju » Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:23 am

Ngl, Idalia looks quite similar to Michael satellite-presentation-wise.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2038 Postby johngaltfla » Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:25 am

Dean4Storms wrote:
jdjaguar wrote:Son lives in Indian Shores where the elevation is 9.2.
NHC is projecting 4-7ft surge in that area but it may coincide with a "king tide".

Question is does the NHC take that into account? If not, should he expect higher than 7ft?


Always error on the side of worse case scenario. Remember, there will be wave action from the wind on top of that 7 ft surge!!


Per a radio report I heard on the way home, Gulfport is already experiencing minor tidal flooding (normal during the seasonal full time) on some of the low lying streets. Add 2-3 foot higher tides on top of surge plus waves and thus the evacuation orders.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2039 Postby cheezyWXguy » Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:26 am

Very common to see some minor dry air intrusions during initial attempts at clearing the eye. Internal structure looks solid on radar and new hot towers keep firing. I don’t see anything at this point to slow Idalia down
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2040 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:27 am

jdjaguar wrote:Son lives in Indian Shores where the elevation is 9.2.
NHC is projecting 4-7ft surge in that area but it may coincide with a "king tide".

Question is does the NHC take that into account? If not, should he expect higher than 7ft?

The way it works is when they say 9ft...that is 9ft ABOVE what would normally be dry. If a king tide ads 2 feet then that 9ft becomes 11 feet.
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