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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#401 Postby BobHarlem » Tue Sep 05, 2023 8:45 pm

chris_fit wrote:Eyeballing 18z EPS... More South at 100+hrs

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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#402 Postby Spacecoast » Tue Sep 05, 2023 8:52 pm

18z EPS: Some weaker members, (more south) compared to 12z. Ensemble mean shifts south, crosses 60W slightly north of 20N
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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#403 Postby SFLcane » Tue Sep 05, 2023 8:53 pm

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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#404 Postby BobHarlem » Tue Sep 05, 2023 8:54 pm

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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#405 Postby Ianswfl » Tue Sep 05, 2023 8:56 pm



18z operational euro is a lot weaker than 12z.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#406 Postby Emmett_Brown » Tue Sep 05, 2023 8:58 pm

chris_fit wrote:Eyeballing 18z EPS... More South at 100+hrs


Interesting that the stronger members seem to be on the left side of the ensemble mean during the first 72 hours.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#407 Postby MetroMike » Tue Sep 05, 2023 8:58 pm

Ianswfl wrote:


18z operational euro is a lot weaker than 12z.

I thought that was referring to the UKMet.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#408 Postby SouthernBreeze » Tue Sep 05, 2023 8:59 pm


Even just 1 or 2 runs back they were showing the big curve starting by the end of this run. Turn seems to have disappeared for now
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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#409 Postby AubreyStorm » Tue Sep 05, 2023 9:12 pm

BobHarlem wrote:
chris_fit wrote:Eyeballing 18z EPS... More South at 100+hrs

https://i.imgur.com/j3IeY09.png



I don’t like due west near over Puerto Rico :eek:
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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#411 Postby SFLcane » Tue Sep 05, 2023 9:33 pm

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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#412 Postby chaser1 » Tue Sep 05, 2023 10:42 pm

AubreyStorm wrote:
BobHarlem wrote:
chris_fit wrote:Eyeballing 18z EPS... More South at 100+hrs

https://i.imgur.com/j3IeY09.png



I don’t like due west near over Puerto Rico :eek:


Neither do roughly 3 million others that live there.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#413 Postby BobHarlem » Tue Sep 05, 2023 10:48 pm

0z Icon shifted ever so slightly to the right (north) of 12z. 0zGFS out to 48 hours is also right/north of 18z. (as is the canadian although the canadian to a lesser degree) Better news for the islands.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#414 Postby Meteorcane » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:21 pm

Lol, as soon as the EC begins to show a more amplified Great Lakes trough in the extended (the GFS solution the last several runs) the GFS begins to trend more progressive. This may be the first GFS run in a couple days that shows a total recurve with no impacts to Atlantic Canada (but still given we are talking over 7 days out, it would be foolish to take that verbatim.

Edit: It does eventually split the trough over the eastern US with the southern split taking on a negative tilt, so still likely a threat to Atlantic Canada.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#415 Postby mantis83 » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:47 pm

a safe recurve is looking more and more likely as we get closer in time.....
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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#416 Postby PavelGaborik10 » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:49 pm

GFS certainly trending in the right direction


A recurve is looking likely imo.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#417 Postby LarryWx » Wed Sep 06, 2023 12:00 am

The 0Z UKMET is a bit stronger. But more importantly, it is recurving 200 miles E of the 12Z run thus implying a significantly lower risk of landfall to the CONUS. Whereas two runs ago it was in the SE Bahamas and the last run was just N of the SE Bahamas, this run is ~250 miles NE of those islands:

TROPICAL STORM LEE ANALYSED POSITION : 13.8N 42.1W

ATCF IDENTIFIER : AL132023

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
0000UTC 06.09.2023 0 13.8N 42.1W 1008 27
1200UTC 06.09.2023 12 14.1N 44.7W 1006 37
0000UTC 07.09.2023 24 15.3N 46.9W 1004 41
1200UTC 07.09.2023 36 16.4N 49.5W 1003 34
0000UTC 08.09.2023 48 17.0N 52.2W 1003 35
1200UTC 08.09.2023 60 17.7N 54.9W 1002 42
0000UTC 09.09.2023 72 18.4N 57.9W 1000 45
1200UTC 09.09.2023 84 18.8N 60.2W 1000 48
0000UTC 10.09.2023 96 19.8N 62.1W 998 53
1200UTC 10.09.2023 108 20.5N 64.2W 998 55
0000UTC 11.09.2023 120 20.8N 65.6W 997 54
1200UTC 11.09.2023 132 21.2N 67.0W 996 52
0000UTC 12.09.2023 144 22.0N 67.7W 993 54
1200UTC 12.09.2023 156 23.3N 68.0W 987 51
0000UTC 13.09.2023 168 24.4N 68.9W 977 56
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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#418 Postby ElectricStorm » Wed Sep 06, 2023 12:28 am

0z HAFS-B, ~140kts/918mb
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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#419 Postby ElectricStorm » Wed Sep 06, 2023 12:39 am

HAFS-A/HAFS-B/HMON all have a Cat 5 (HMON is borderline as of hour 93) by sometime Saturday, we'll see if HWRF joins them
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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#420 Postby Meteorcane » Wed Sep 06, 2023 12:48 am

mantis83 wrote:a safe recurve is looking more and more likely as we get closer in time.....


Still too much uncertainty in the long term to feel too safe about Bermuda, Atlantic Canada, and the NE US. I still wouldn't necessarily say there is no threat for the Turks and Caicos and eastern Bahamas either... only takes a somewhat stronger ridge.
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