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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#981 Postby Blown Away » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:06 pm

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I’ll be honest, it’s so nice tracking a clear eye vs trying to figure out where the broad COC will consolidate… :D
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#982 Postby TheDreamTraveler » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:06 pm

What makes this even more historic is where Lee did this in the atlantic basin this far out.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#983 Postby GCANE » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:07 pm

I have a feeling this will be a big-ass monster when it gets close to the coast
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#984 Postby ElectricStorm » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:09 pm

Eye has cooled a bit over the past hour or so per ADT, although it's still +20.9C
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#985 Postby eastcoastFL » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:09 pm

GCANE wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:
GCANE wrote:IR shows a big mesovort forming on the SW eyewall

What does that mean? Increasing chances of EWRC?


Yes


How fast can a storm like this complete an EWRC?
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#986 Postby WalterWhite » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:11 pm

ElectricStorm wrote:Eye has cooled a bit over the past hour or so per ADT, although it's still +20.9C

Does that mean intensification or weakening?
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#987 Postby HurricaneBelle » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:11 pm

Blown Away wrote: [/url]

I’ll be honest, it’s so nice tracking a clear eye vs trying to figure out where the broad COC will consolidate… :D


or wondering if recon will find a west wind
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#988 Postby ElectricStorm » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:12 pm

WalterWhite wrote:
ElectricStorm wrote:Eye has cooled a bit over the past hour or so per ADT, although it's still +20.9C

Does that mean intensification or weakening?

A cooling eye would mean weakening, but ADT can fluctuate sometimes
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#989 Postby IsabelaWeather » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:12 pm

I just have to LOL. These threads always chime in about something when there isnt any data.
Strong storms its always a EWRC. So far there is no data to suggest one, last MW showed no evidence of one, yet its popped up so many times already. There will probably be one, but lets wait until there is legit evidence to show one.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#990 Postby HurricaneBelle » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:14 pm

IsabelaWeather wrote:I just have to LOL. These threads always chime in about something when there isnt any data.
Strong storms its always a EWRC. So far there is no data to suggest one, last MW showed no evidence of one, yet its popped up so many times already. There will probably be one, but lets wait until there is legit evidence to show one.


everyone wants to be the first to spot an EWRC
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#991 Postby canebeard » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:15 pm

TheDreamTraveler wrote:What makes this even more historic is where Lee did this in the atlantic basin this far out.


Hugo did this in a very similar location, and went down to 918, after being 990 the day before.

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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#992 Postby GCANE » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:17 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:
GCANE wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:What does that mean? Increasing chances of EWRC?


Yes


How fast can a storm like this complete an EWRC?


Good question
I think it depends on the size of the outer eyewall.
Haven't seen any papers that try and calculate that.
Doesn't mean there is something out there.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#993 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:18 pm

ElectricStorm wrote:Eye has cooled a bit over the past hour or so per ADT, although it's still +20.9C

ADT can miss the warmest eye temperature.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#994 Postby Cyclenall » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:18 pm

GCANE wrote:Calculated probability of an EWRC has increased significantly

https://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/ ... leERC.html

That's a neat page/tool product from CIMSS, thanks for bringing it up. I don't get the eye size being in the degrees unit, currently at 0.30
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#995 Postby IsabelaWeather » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:19 pm

HurricaneBelle wrote:
IsabelaWeather wrote:I just have to LOL. These threads always chime in about something when there isnt any data.
Strong storms its always a EWRC. So far there is no data to suggest one, last MW showed no evidence of one, yet its popped up so many times already. There will probably be one, but lets wait until there is legit evidence to show one.


everyone wants to be the first to spot an EWRC



Very true, and I get it. It just gets tiresome.

Lee looks stunning right now, also looks to be moving mostly west. I hope it passes closer to PR than expected, but still well offshore of all islands lol.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#996 Postby GCANE » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:21 pm

Interesting there is no feeder band.
Not picking up any aerial fuel like CAPE or TPW.
Energy is coming all from the water.
The microwave soundings are sketchy, but what I can tell is that the anomalous temperature above the water is not that cool.
So, heat transfer is not all that great.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#997 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:24 pm

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Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Off-hand, the only storm that I can think of that blew up quite as quickly as Lee did was Maria.

Wilma


Nope, Wilma wandered around as a TD/TS for a few days before going ballistic.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#998 Postby eastcoastFL » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:26 pm

IsabelaWeather wrote:I just have to LOL. These threads always chime in about something when there isnt any data.
Strong storms its always a EWRC. So far there is no data to suggest one, last MW showed no evidence of one, yet its popped up so many times already. There will probably be one, but lets wait until there is legit evidence to show one.


The data shows the odds of an impending EWRC are increasing. I haven’t heard anyone say they’ve spotted one though.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#999 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:28 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:
IsabelaWeather wrote:I just have to LOL. These threads always chime in about something when there isnt any data.
Strong storms its always a EWRC. So far there is no data to suggest one, last MW showed no evidence of one, yet its popped up so many times already. There will probably be one, but lets wait until there is legit evidence to show one.


The data shows the odds of an impending EWRC are increasing. I haven’t heard anyone say they’ve spotted one though.


The eye has shrunken on IR, it is usually a sign, but it hasn't gotten any smaller rapidly or any indication for an outer eyewall on satellite or MW passes.
Recon may make another pass soon; they are the concrete truth to confirm if there is an outer eyewall or not (double wind maxima)
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1000 Postby zzzh » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:29 pm

NW FL145 SFMR 157 :lol:
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