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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1881 Postby wxman57 » Wed Sep 13, 2023 5:35 pm

Careful with that latest NHC track. It illustrates the issue with 24 hr points during a gradual turn. You cannot just connect those points with a straight line. Landfall will probably be a little east of the Maine border, but not nearly as far east as the straight line indicates. Regardless, there will be no core remaining at landfall. Models are indicating only 35-40 kts as it reaches New Brunswick. Coastal New England will be raked by tropical storm force wind with strong gusts. With the wet ground and leaves still on the trees, there will be widespread power outages as trees/branches fall on power lines. Rainfall in eastern MA may only be an inch or two, though. Maybe 2-5 inches in SE Maine. That's a lot for up there.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1882 Postby WalterWhite » Wed Sep 13, 2023 7:16 pm

The FL winds of 107 kt support Lee being at 95 kt.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1883 Postby tolakram » Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:22 pm

HurricaneBelle wrote:
galaxy401 wrote:Hurricane Watch has been issued for Maine.


Lee is going to be the Maine event.


How many years were you waiting to say that? :lol:
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1884 Postby Hurricane2022 » Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:26 pm

tolakram wrote:
HurricaneBelle wrote:
galaxy401 wrote:Hurricane Watch has been issued for Maine.


Lee is going to be the Maine event.


How many years were you waiting to say that? :lol:

~ 54 years
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1885 Postby PavelGaborik10 » Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:42 pm

Lee looks like something you'd expect to see in November, not the first half of September.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1886 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:43 pm

tolakram wrote:
HurricaneBelle wrote:
galaxy401 wrote:Hurricane Watch has been issued for Maine.


Lee is going to be the Maine event.


How many years were you waiting to say that? :lol:


Speaking of which I find the last part rather interesting. BTW They are referencing Tropical Storm Gerda (downgraded from a cat one upon recent reanalysis) from 1969 a storm whose surge and waves did a great deal of damage to the structures mentioned -

The current official NHC track suggests that the noon Saturday
high tide may feature the greatest surge.

Since the track has moved further west and peak surge could line
up with the noon Saturday high tide, the scope and severity of
storm surge impacts could be significant.

This means flooding issues in Machias, Eastport, Lubec, along
the Deer Isle Causeway, Stonington, and other causeways crossing
tidal-impacted waterways. Heavy rainfall will acerbate the
potential for coastal infrastructure impacts. Key in mind that a
tropical storm of this magnitude has no analogy since at least
1969 or earlier for Downeast.


source - https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=CAR&issuedby=CAR&product=AFD&format=CI&version=1&glossary=1&highlight=off
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1887 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Wed Sep 13, 2023 9:02 pm

It is awful of me I know, but looking at the recent consensus model southeastward trend I am hoping for a track south of the Gulf of Maine into/near Western Nova Scotia. Such a track would likely keep the worst winds and storm surge away from those of us located around Passamaquoddy Bay due to the general eastside wind rule.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1888 Postby Sciencerocks » Wed Sep 13, 2023 9:07 pm

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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1889 Postby RevanTheJedi96 » Wed Sep 13, 2023 9:58 pm

Lee looks horrible on IR. Hopefully, its impacts this weekend will be minimal to New England and Atlantic Canada.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1890 Postby Hurricane Mike » Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:32 pm

I'm surprised how strong the winds on recon are given the disorganized satellite appearance.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1891 Postby Sciencerocks » Thu Sep 14, 2023 1:36 am

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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1892 Postby NDG » Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:31 am

Lee is already taking on a subtropical like structure with the strongest winds a good 70-80 miles from its CoC.
Not much left of a tight gradient core around its eye.

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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1893 Postby ChrisH-UK » Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:13 am

Lee this morning. There is convection over the centre but the south west part of the storm has been weakened.

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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1894 Postby GCANE » Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:17 am

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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1895 Postby Sciencerocks » Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:31 am

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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1896 Postby sikkar » Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:32 am

Huge mofo wind field on the eastern side. Bermuda better be ready.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1897 Postby wxman57 » Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:35 am

WalterWhite wrote:The FL winds of 107 kt support Lee being at 95 kt.


No, they don't. Cannot use standard FL-SFC wind conversion in this case. The "standard" FL to SFC reduction formula is only valid in the specific case of eyewall squalls, but each storm is different. Measured winds were much lower. Current recon is finding peak wind about 70 kts in NE quadrant. Could be a 75 kt max there somewhere. Cat 1. Lee is now moving out of 27C water into cooler water from Franklin/Idalia upwelling.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1898 Postby wxman57 » Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:37 am

It appears that with the ingestion of last evening's G-IV dropsonde data into the models, they've come into better agreement on a track to western Nova Scotia Saturday evening. Still will see TS wind all along the NE U.S. coast Saturday, though.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1899 Postby Sciencerocks » Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:42 am

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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1900 Postby MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS » Thu Sep 14, 2023 1:21 pm

Looks like an eye popping out in the last few frames?
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