ATL: BERYL - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1081 Postby mrbagyo » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:32 am

What a gorgeous storm you have out there.
I'll continue to watch the progress of this system while our basin over here (WPAC) continues its slumber
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1082 Postby underthwx » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:38 am

Good morning yall...im sorry I haven't been too active lately....I hope this question has not been asked already...my bad if it has...but is Beryl considered a annular cyclone?...thanks
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1083 Postby TallyTracker » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:39 am

Another item to note. Strengthening hurricanes are worse than weakening hurricanes of the same strength. They can more effectively pull high wind gusts to the surface. Praying for the Grenadines this morning…
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1084 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:41 am

underthwx wrote:Good morning yall...im sorry I haven't been too active lately....I hope this question has not been asked already...my bad if it has...but is Beryl considered an annular cyclone?...thanks

I don’t think so. Too much banding. It’s not very close. But the pinwheel eye is neat
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1085 Postby tolakram » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:41 am

underthwx wrote:Good morning yall...im sorry I haven't been too active lately....I hope this question has not been asked already...my bad if it has...but is Beryl considered a annular cyclone?...thanks


No, classic buzz saw. Annular is rare.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1086 Postby Xyls » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:42 am

Should be making landfall on Carriacou in the next minutes. Beryl will be the most intense hurricane to hit the Southern Windwards since records have began.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1087 Postby Powellrm » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:46 am

Hoping for the best for everyone in Grenada and carriacou. I’ve been there multiple times and think a lot of the islands and the people there. At least this is a fast moving storm. Pretty brisk pace.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1088 Postby kevin » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:48 am

Upcoming recon pass should provide information on the landfall intensity of Beryl.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1089 Postby Xyls » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:50 am

kevin wrote:Upcoming recon pass should provide information on the landfall intensity of Beryl.


Expecting winds between 140-150MPH to be honest. Which the islands have yet to experience as they will be on the eastern side of the eyewall...
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1090 Postby LearnedHat » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:51 am

Xyls wrote:Should be making landfall on Carriacou in the next minutes. Beryl will be the most intense hurricane to hit the Southern Windwards since records have began.


So when did we start measuring and recording intensity with technology that is similar to what we use today? 1960s? 1970s. Have we always investigated storms this far away?
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1091 Postby Sciencerocks » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:52 am

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1092 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:56 am

I'm going to guess pressure is down to 948mb
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1093 Postby Xyls » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:56 am

LearnedHat wrote:
Xyls wrote:Should be making landfall on Carriacou in the next minutes. Beryl will be the most intense hurricane to hit the Southern Windwards since records have began.


So when did we start measuring and recording intensity with technology that is similar to what we use today? 1960s? 1970s. Have we always investigated storms this far away?


Official hurricane records go back to 1851 many of them are based on ship records and early meteorological records which are meticulously kept. Much of the data has been refined over the years from reanalyses done by HURDAT. There is an argument that The Great Hurricane of 1780 would be the strongest in the general area but we don't have any particularly good meteorological records on how strong it actually was.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1094 Postby 3090 » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:56 am

underthwx wrote:Good morning yall...im sorry I haven't been too active lately....I hope this question has not been asked already...my bad if it has...but is Beryl considered a annular cyclone?...thanks

Pinwheel eyes are rare but can SOMETIMES be within an annular type system. But the rain band features within Beryl do not align with an annular type system.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1095 Postby Javlin » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:57 am

What's the thoughts once Beryl hits 65W and is a little further away from SA?I am thinking the she may expand some?
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1096 Postby wxman57 » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:58 am

LearnedHat wrote:
Xyls wrote:Should be making landfall on Carriacou in the next minutes. Beryl will be the most intense hurricane to hit the Southern Windwards since records have began.


So when did we start measuring and recording intensity with technology that is similar to what we use today? 1960s? 1970s. Have we always investigated storms this far away?


The first GPS dropsondes were in the late 1980s. In the 1960s-1970s all they had were flight level winds.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1097 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:58 am

The pinwheel in the center looks like fan blades
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1098 Postby Hurricane2022 » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:58 am

I'm waiting for some records of the eye. it will be historic.Image
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1099 Postby tolakram » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:58 am

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1100 Postby wxman57 » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:59 am

Javlin wrote:What's the thoughts once Beryl hits 65W and is a little further away from SA?I am thinking the she may expand some?


There are two main reasons/ways a hurricane expands. The first would occur during an eyewall replacement cycle, but that's generally a temporary expansion. The primary way a hurricane expands is after significant land interaction, like crossing the Yucatan when the core is severely disrupted.
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