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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#1341 Postby USTropics » Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:12 am

Abdullah wrote:The SW eyewall is the strongest, correct?

Or can it be that there's a side that's bigger in wind range but not necessarily stronger?

https://i.imgur.com/wFMq9N8.jpeg


For an east moving system, the strong side (or right front quadrant) is the southern side, as the wind vector aligns with the forward speed.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#1342 Postby Landy » Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:12 am

Saying this rapidly intensified between the recon missions now and the recon missions 8 hours ago somehow feels like an understatement.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#1343 Postby birdwomn » Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:12 am

TallyTracker wrote:
Sunnydays wrote:I have family members leaving the Tampa area at noon today headed up and over to far NW Fla area. Is there a website anyone can recommend for following traffic and any possible standstills on the interstate systems that may occur due to evacuee traffic? Has anyone heard if Desantis has any ideas of contraflow? I know I75 was at a standstill in some areas last night. Just want to guide them the best I can to get them out of there the quickest way possible.


Take US 19 to I-10. It will take an extra 45 min - 1 hour but there is far less traffic. They can even take the Suncoast Parkway all the way to SR 44 now.

Google Traffic has been good for me most of the time.


FL511 is an app for traffic in Florida that they post on the disaster websites.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#1344 Postby kevin » Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:13 am

CDO expanding and still cooling, this might actually attempt to complete some form of a pink ring in the GOM.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#1345 Postby Kazmit » Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:13 am

Nuts to me how the winds are catching up to the pressure so fast now. I guess it’s a lot quicker of a process with such a compact core.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#1346 Postby GCANE » Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:13 am

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FLpanhandle91 wrote:Looks like NOAA took a minute to get their minds right before punching lol.


Pucker factor exponentially rising

What’s the pucker factor?


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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#1347 Postby AutoPenalti » Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:13 am

EWRC may happen sooner than later I would guess with this intensity.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#1348 Postby Abdullah » Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:14 am

USTropics wrote:
Abdullah wrote:The SW eyewall is the strongest, correct?

Or can it be that there's a side that's bigger in wind range but not necessarily stronger?

https://i.imgur.com/wFMq9N8.jpeg


For an east moving system, the strong side (or right front quadrant) is the southern side, as the wind vector aligns with the forward speed.


Thank you,

Does this mean at landfall the strongest quadrant will be on the Southeast?
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#1349 Postby Keldeo1997 » Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:15 am

CDO going from the comma shape into a perfect Circle. Eye hasn't clear yet. We are far from done.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#1350 Postby Frank P » Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:15 am

Official meteorological term for pucker pressure is .. The “Pucker Factor” (PF) is a scale that seeks to measure fear by the force of contraction exerted on the sphincter muscles surrounding the anus during a given situation of danger. The scale is from 1 to 10. :lol:
I would say the PP or PF is near 10 along the west coast of FL this morning. In all seriousness this is just an unbelievable scenario playing out this week. As we on the MS coast know, stuff it just stuff and can be rebuilt and replace. Protect all your family members including your pets, take NO chances, do not even attempt to ride this storm out, whatever experiences you had it the past, Milton will most likely exceed that exponentially. Good Luck and God Speed FL residents and all in harms way..
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#1351 Postby FrontRunner » Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:15 am

Anyone know how this rate of intensification compares with other storms, specifically going from TD to Cat 4 in less than 48 hours? Or from TS to Cat 4 in roughly 24 hours?
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#1352 Postby GCANE » Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:15 am

A minor geomagnetic storm is underway with ionospheric heating.
This should get over Milton in a few hours.
Let's see if this causes further intensification.

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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#1353 Postby MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS » Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:16 am

GCANE wrote:
aspen wrote:
GCANE wrote:
Pucker factor exponentially rising

What’s the pucker factor?


Navy fighter pilots use the term when trying to land on a carrier with a pitching deck at night.
If you put a lump of coal up your butt, it would turn into a diamond

Sounds like something the Navy would do.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#1354 Postby MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS » Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:16 am

Abdullah wrote:
USTropics wrote:
Abdullah wrote:The SW eyewall is the strongest, correct?

Or can it be that there's a side that's bigger in wind range but not necessarily stronger?

https://i.imgur.com/wFMq9N8.jpeg


For an east moving system, the strong side (or right front quadrant) is the southern side, as the wind vector aligns with the forward speed.


Thank you,

Does this mean at landfall the strongest quadrant will be on the Southeast?


Typically, yes. And that appears likely in this case.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#1355 Postby kevin » Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:17 am

FrontRunner wrote:Anyone know how this rate of intensification compares with other storms, specifically going from TD to Cat 4 in less than 48 hours? Or from TS to Cat 4 in roughly 24 hours?


It has 2 more hours until we reach Wilma's record of 24 hours for a TS to a C5 (it's been 22 hours since a TS now). Not sure about the C4 records.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#1356 Postby aspen » Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:18 am

kevin wrote:
FrontRunner wrote:Anyone know how this rate of intensification compares with other storms, specifically going from TD to Cat 4 in less than 48 hours? Or from TS to Cat 4 in roughly 24 hours?


It has 2 more hours until we reach Wilma's record of 24 hours for a TS to a C5 (it's been 22 hours since a TS now). Not sure about the C4 records.

At the rate Milton is intensifying, it’ll likely be a mid to low-930s Cat 5 next pass. If so, it’ll match or slightly beat Wilma’s record.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#1357 Postby Gotwood » Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:19 am

Serious question I have a friend that’s never been in a major hurricane before. He currently lives about 14 miles away from Ft Myers beach in an apartment. It’s just him and his wife. Should I tell him to evacuate?
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#1358 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:20 am

Just an FYI, I now consider this thread officially “blowing up”
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#1359 Postby MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS » Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:20 am

kevin wrote:
FrontRunner wrote:Anyone know how this rate of intensification compares with other storms, specifically going from TD to Cat 4 in less than 48 hours? Or from TS to Cat 4 in roughly 24 hours?


It has 2 more hours until we reach Wilma's record of 24 hours for a TS to a C5 (it's been 22 hours since a TS now). Not sure about the C4 records.


This is the Atlantic record. In the West Pacific, Typhoon Forrest (1983) had a 100 mbar intensification in 24 hours (compared to 97 mbar for Wilma)
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#1360 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:20 am

kevin wrote:CDO expanding and still cooling, this might actually attempt to complete some form of a pink ring in the GOM.

CDG ring halfway complete. That could eventually support a T7.0 even though the eye remains obscured.
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