ATL: HELENE - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2141 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Thu Sep 26, 2024 12:28 am

I'm off to bed...hope this doesn't blow up overnight.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2142 Postby Hurrilurker » Thu Sep 26, 2024 12:29 am

Recon getting close...still guessing 965.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2143 Postby AtlanticWind » Thu Sep 26, 2024 12:29 am

Recon flying in

Guess the pressure

Win a prize :lol:
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2144 Postby Zonacane » Thu Sep 26, 2024 12:30 am

AtlanticWind wrote:Recon flying in

Guess the pressure

Win a prize :lol:

968
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2145 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Sep 26, 2024 12:31 am

Guessing 958 mb, but the winds not yet catching up...
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2146 Postby AtlanticWind » Thu Sep 26, 2024 12:31 am

963 is my guess
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2147 Postby ElectricStorm » Thu Sep 26, 2024 12:33 am

Zonacane wrote:Just took a gulp of dry air again :lol: :lol:

From almost 2 hours ago.
 https://x.com/MatthewCappucci/status/1839149844536959225


Based on this I'm wondering if that's the larger core trying to emerge. Would need to get rid of the smaller inner core and then the outer eyewall needs to contract before any RI would start I would think
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2148 Postby Beef Stew » Thu Sep 26, 2024 12:34 am

Guessing 966 for this pass
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2149 Postby zhukm29 » Thu Sep 26, 2024 12:35 am

I'll guess 965
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2150 Postby Zonacane » Thu Sep 26, 2024 12:40 am

ElectricStorm wrote:
Zonacane wrote:Just took a gulp of dry air again :lol: :lol:

From almost 2 hours ago.
 https://x.com/MatthewCappucci/status/1839149844536959225


Based on this I'm wondering if that's the larger core trying to emerge. Would need to get rid of the smaller inner core and then the outer eyewall needs to contract before any RI would start I would think

Certainly looks like a much larger eye trying to close out, but this storm is also addicted to dry air, you can see it on WV
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2151 Postby Craters » Thu Sep 26, 2024 12:40 am

tolakram wrote:
SoupBone wrote:
tolakram wrote:upper level WV saved loop

https://i.imgur.com/nssVw2J.gif


What's the link to this product? The ones I use aren't as clear as this one.


https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/?parms=m ... =undefined

The one time I don't include it. :) COD viewer has a lot of options for areas to look at and the different IR views.


I'll confirm this. COD is my go-to site for GOES coverage during hurricane season. And the rest of the year, for that matter, too. For what it's worth...
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2152 Postby Teban54 » Thu Sep 26, 2024 12:41 am

Zonacane wrote:Just took a gulp of dry air again :lol: :lol:

Doesn't look like dry air to me IMO, may just be the "outer eyewall" trying to clear out after all. On the 5-min loops you can seemingly see dual rotating hot towers around the outer eyewall.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2153 Postby Zonacane » Thu Sep 26, 2024 12:43 am

Teban54 wrote:
Zonacane wrote:Just took a gulp of dry air again :lol: :lol:

Doesn't look like dry air to me IMO, may just be the "outer eyewall" trying to clear out after all. On the 5-min loops you can seemingly see dual rotating hot towers around the outer eyewall.

No, there is a painfully large dry slot on water vapor and visible on the Eastern portion of the CDO. More than one actually.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2154 Postby ConvergenceZone » Thu Sep 26, 2024 12:47 am

Zonacane wrote:
Teban54 wrote:
Zonacane wrote:Just took a gulp of dry air again :lol: :lol:

Doesn't look like dry air to me IMO, may just be the "outer eyewall" trying to clear out after all. On the 5-min loops you can seemingly see dual rotating hot towers around the outer eyewall.

No, there is a painfully large dry slot on water vapor and visible on the Eastern portion of the CDO. More than one actually.


All that might mean is that it might be a Cat 3 upon landfall and not a Cat 4. But even if true a Cat 3 of this size is going to still do MASSIVE damage.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2155 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Thu Sep 26, 2024 12:51 am

Zonacane wrote:
Teban54 wrote:
Zonacane wrote:Just took a gulp of dry air again :lol: :lol:

Doesn't look like dry air to me IMO, may just be the "outer eyewall" trying to clear out after all. On the 5-min loops you can seemingly see dual rotating hot towers around the outer eyewall.

No, there is a painfully large dry slot on water vapor and visible on the Eastern portion of the CDO. More than one actually.

The core appears to have "walled off" the dry air with the latest hot towers though. This is the most symmetrical is has looked since before the Yucatan brush.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2156 Postby wx98 » Thu Sep 26, 2024 12:52 am

Doesn’t look like much in the way of pressure falls just yet.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2157 Postby ElectricStorm » Thu Sep 26, 2024 12:52 am

970 extrap. Hardly dropped at all
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2158 Postby Zonacane » Thu Sep 26, 2024 12:56 am

Zonacane wrote:
AtlanticWind wrote:Recon flying in

Guess the pressure

Win a prize :lol:

968

Man I almost went with 969. This hurricane is getting smothered in dry air. You're not supposed to get outflow boundaries off your eyewall's convection.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2159 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Thu Sep 26, 2024 12:56 am

ElectricStorm wrote:970 extrap. Hardly dropped at all

FWIW, the hurricane models all showed stable, or rising, pressure through the evening and early night. They did not start showing RI until between 06-09z. So we should start seeing pressures drop sometime within the next hour or so. It's current structure evolution also supports this as well.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2160 Postby Zonacane » Thu Sep 26, 2024 12:57 am

May it continue to choke
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