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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2121 Postby 869MB » Tue Oct 28, 2025 2:35 am

While everyone is sleeping, or taking a nap, I just wanted to give a quick shout out to all the men and women who contributed with improving the weather computer modeling quality over the years. Hurricane Melissa is the latest example of how their hard work has increased forecaster’s confidence and provided the general public with sufficient lead time to prepare for such extreme storms such as this.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2122 Postby kevin » Tue Oct 28, 2025 3:18 am

The last recon pass still showed no signs of double-wind maxima and the eye drop had 95%+ RH all the way to the surface. Melissa has been a category 5 hurricane for 23 hours so far and it might remain one until landfall in another 10 hours. This would make Melissa the longest-duration cat 5 since Irma. And the only reason it'll weaken is because, with likely catastrophic consequences, Jamaica is 'in its way'. I don't think I've ever seen such a long-duration cat 5 with no EWRC. Whether it's the shear being just high enough to prevent an EWRC or just Melissa's extremely stable core, she's a one-of-a-kind storm.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2123 Postby kevin » Tue Oct 28, 2025 3:21 am

With landfall less than 12 hours away, it's also becoming more likely that Melissa will be added to this list. The most intense Atlantic hurricane landfalls.

892 mb - Labor Day - 1932
900 mb - Gilbert - 1988
900 mb - Camille - 1969
905 mb - Dean - 2007
910 mb - Cuba 1924 - 1924
910 mb - Dorian - 2019
914 mb - Janet - 1955
914 mb - Irma - 2017
918 mb - Cuba 1932 - 1932
919 mb - Michael - 2018
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2124 Postby Hammy » Tue Oct 28, 2025 3:33 am

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eye looks like it's starting to destabilize some over the last few hours, could be a weakening trend
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2125 Postby Hurrilurker » Tue Oct 28, 2025 3:36 am

Picking up speed fast, weird after seeing it just crawl in the area for days. That's probably a good thing for Jamaica, don't want it sitting there long.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2126 Postby grapealcoholic » Tue Oct 28, 2025 3:52 am

Hammy wrote:https://i.imgur.com/AwQL9Dt.gif

eye looks like it's starting to destabilize some over the last few hours, could be a weakening trend


alternatively, mesos which it's in the process of integrating

cdo looks impressive
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2127 Postby michelinj » Tue Oct 28, 2025 4:02 am

Can't see any evidence of the NOAA plane taking off yet, and it should have an hour ago. Hopefully it's on the way and just not reporting. At worst if it doesn't go at least we have the AF plane which should leave any minute.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2128 Postby grapealcoholic » Tue Oct 28, 2025 4:02 am

nhc discussion mentions a second eyewall

better complete quick
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2129 Postby michelinj » Tue Oct 28, 2025 4:08 am

grapealcoholic wrote:nhc discussion mentions a second eyewall

better complete quick


Yeah last few frames of satellite looks like something's going on near the eye. Saw it yesterday but it took mere hours to sort itself out before deepening again. Let's hope this EWRC if it is one gets disrupted by land influence
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2130 Postby aspen » Tue Oct 28, 2025 4:20 am

No sign of either recon plane taking off yet. What’s going on?
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2131 Postby grapealcoholic » Tue Oct 28, 2025 4:23 am

the thermodynamics & convective activity at play right now mean any structural changes complete very quickly

building a strong base for one final intensification round maybe, if it has time
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2132 Postby michelinj » Tue Oct 28, 2025 4:23 am

aspen wrote:No sign of either recon plane taking off yet. What’s going on?

Yeah I'm not sure, they don't have loads of time before it'll start getting influenced by land too
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2133 Postby Stormybajan » Tue Oct 28, 2025 4:35 am

To watch Melissa hit those upper echelon heights yesterday into overnight will definitely be something all weather enthusiasts wont forget. Sadly, Melissa will probably be a hurricane everyone on the island of Jamaica wont forget either, 175 mph and 901 mb is disgustingly strong!! Especially for a storm of relatively small size to have such a deep pressure..7th strongest of alltime!!! :double: :eek: Truthfully the CDO with the full pink ring yesterday , could have an argument for top 1-3 tropical appearances in this basin over the last 40 years!! Last year's strongest was 895 mb then followed up with 901mb...nasty work!
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2134 Postby cycloneye » Tue Oct 28, 2025 4:37 am

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2135 Postby aspen » Tue Oct 28, 2025 4:46 am

It’s now almost 2 hours since the first recon flight was supposed to take off, and still nothing on either Tropical Tidbits or Cyclonicwx. Hopefully they didn’t cancel both flights for some reason. This needs coverage in its last several hours before landfall.

The 5am discussion says both flights are expected to head out this morning, so idk what’s going on.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2136 Postby kevin » Tue Oct 28, 2025 4:50 am

Flightaware now mentions that NOAA42 is expected to depart in 20 minutes. Perhaps something is wrong with the other planes and NOAA42 is going again instead. I don't know, all we can do is wait and see.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2137 Postby tolakram » Tue Oct 28, 2025 4:53 am

aspen wrote:It’s now almost 2 hours since the first recon flight was supposed to take off, and still nothing on either Tropical Tidbits or Cyclonicwx. Hopefully they didn’t cancel both flights for some reason. This needs coverage in its last several hours before landfall.

The 5am discussion says both flights are expected to head out this morning, so idk what’s going on.


I imagine the goal is to be in the storm as close to landfall as possible.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2138 Postby Hammy » Tue Oct 28, 2025 4:55 am

cycloneye wrote:Another eyewall merger. :eek:

 https://x.com/KeviShader/status/1983105209099575364



and consistent with satellite, the eye is clearing out and stabilized once again
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2139 Postby Beef Stew » Tue Oct 28, 2025 4:58 am

What an absolutely historic storm. I’m simultaneously mesmerized in awe and also sick to my stomach knowing the lives this will invariably take in Jamaica and Cuba…
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2140 Postby aspen » Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:05 am

tolakram wrote:
aspen wrote:It’s now almost 2 hours since the first recon flight was supposed to take off, and still nothing on either Tropical Tidbits or Cyclonicwx. Hopefully they didn’t cancel both flights for some reason. This needs coverage in its last several hours before landfall.

The 5am discussion says both flights are expected to head out this morning, so idk what’s going on.


I imagine the goal is to be in the storm as close to landfall as possible.

They’d be cutting it incredibly close if the info about NOAA42 leaving shortly is correct. Maybe something’s wrong with the other NOAA plane like Kevin suggested. Both planes probably took quite a beating yesterday.
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