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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion: Update= Made Landfall at 185 mph / 892 mbs

#2601 Postby kevin » Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:13 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:Have there ever been 2 consecutive seasons with sub-900mb hurricanes?


Nope, first time. Like many other stats, Melissa has broken this one as well.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion: Update= Made Landfall at 185 mph / 892 mbs

#2602 Postby WaveBreaking » Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:13 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:Have there ever been 2 consecutive seasons with sub-900mb hurricanes?


This is the first time in recorded history that this has occurred.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion: Update= Made Landfall at 185 mph / 892 mbs

#2603 Postby zal0phus » Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:16 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:Have there ever been 2 consecutive seasons with sub-900mb hurricanes?

Not recorded, no. But I would imagine there have been times in the late 1800s or 1930s or other exceptionally active eras
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion: Update= Made Landfall at 185 mph / 892 mbs

#2604 Postby ljmac75 » Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:16 pm

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MGC wrote:Looks like Morgerman got into the extreme eastern part of the eye. I bet that NE quad of Melissa was intense. Montego Bay looks to get the western eye or eyewall. Going to be incredible destruction across western Jamaica......MGC

No updates from him at all, bit worrying. He was in the eye, I would have thought he could have gotten something out on starlink.

I'm confident he'll turn up. He disappeared for a bit after Dorian too.
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#2605 Postby Beef Stew » Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:17 pm

Truly historic. I still can't actually believe we're witnessing a sub-900 mb landfall in the Atlantic... to me, that's always been this sort of mystified, fantastical benchmark set by one storm and one storm alone, and that, while I didn't doubt would happen again one day, I never expected to actually witness.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion: Update= Made Landfall at 185 mph / 892 mbs

#2606 Postby tallywx » Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:17 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:We'll have to see if someone in New Hope or White House has a home barometer that survived. However, the Schloemer equation from Josh's data can also be used, as we know the RMW.


Josh also deploys a remote sensor or two in addition to the one he has on him. We’ll see if he placed any west of where he was because before the wobble all indications would’ve been to hedge sensors toward the east rather than west.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion: Update= Made Landfall at 185 mph / 892 mbs

#2607 Postby Category5Kaiju » Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:17 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:Have there ever been 2 consecutive seasons with sub-900mb hurricanes?


Sub-900 mbar hurricanes are like legends. They only happen every so often, separated by a decade or not longer.

Having two seasons back to back with these kinds of hurricanes is a first in recorded Atlantic history.
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#2608 Postby Teban54 » Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:19 pm

Beef Stew wrote:Truly historic. I still can't actually believe we're witnessing a sub-900 mb landfall in the Atlantic... to me, that's always been this sort of mystified, fantastical benchmark set by one storm and one storm alone, and that, while I didn't doubt would happen again one day, I never expected to actually witness.

This is practically the first time, in our generations, that people were on the ground in a sub-900 mb Atlantic hurricane and lived to tell the tale. (Except for a likely small number of Florida Keys residents who were in 1935 Labor Day and are still alive, if any)
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#2610 Postby ConvergenceZone » Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:20 pm

What a crazy storm! Been watching the footage all morning. This will more than likely be the last storm of the year, so this is what they call a season going out like a Lion.
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#2611 Postby michelinj » Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:21 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:Have there ever been 2 consecutive seasons with sub-900mb hurricanes?

No, but 2005 had 2 in the same season, as well as Katrina at 902mb. That year is just in another league. The same season containing numbers 1,5 and 9 on the all time list!
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#2613 Postby Beef Stew » Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:22 pm

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cheezyWXguy wrote:Have there ever been 2 consecutive seasons with sub-900mb hurricanes?


Sub-900 mbar hurricanes are like legends. They only happen every so often, separated by a decade or not longer.

Having two seasons back to back with these kinds of hurricanes is a first in recorded Atlantic history.


...Or twice in a few months, if you're 2005. Not to diminish back-to-back seasons with sub 900 storms, because it's literally an unprecedented feat (and one, you could argue, that actually more impressive because it requires more than just one really conductive season), but I'm not sure we'll see another season this century where we have multiple sub-900 storms.
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#2614 Postby Jr0d » Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:24 pm

Beef Stew wrote:Truly historic. I still can't actually believe we're witnessing a sub-900 mb landfall in the Atlantic... to me, that's always been this sort of mystified, fantastical benchmark set by one storm and one storm alone, and that, while I didn't doubt would happen again one day, I never expected to actually witness.


Living in the Florida Keys and seeing this, reminds me that it is inevitable to happen again here...just probably not in my lifetime, perhaps not in the next 200+ years, or ir can happen next season. We know its happened here before.

For a storm to reach sub 900mb is insane enough, but to make landfall is a once in a lifetime event. Hopefully we will never see this again in our lives. As fascinating as it is, the destruction is too grim.

Unfortunately with an apparent active cycle and/or excess ocean heat, there is a chance these events are becoming more common as noted by back to back seasons in the Atlantic with sub 900 monsters.
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#2615 Postby tolakram » Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:26 pm

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#2616 Postby aspen » Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:27 pm

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cheezyWXguy wrote:Have there ever been 2 consecutive seasons with sub-900mb hurricanes?


Sub-900 mbar hurricanes are like legends. They only happen every so often, separated by a decade or not longer.

Having two seasons back to back with these kinds of hurricanes is a first in recorded Atlantic history.

It’s crazy that 2 of the 7 sub-900 Atlantic hurricanes happened just a year apart — one of which was the first sub-900 landfall in nearly a century. Unreal stuff.

Imagine telling us in early September that this underperforming season would go on to produce Labor Day 2. You’d get banned for trolling.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion: Update= Made Landfall at 185 mph / 892 mbs

#2617 Postby Jr0d » Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:30 pm

Beef Stew wrote:
Category5Kaiju wrote:
cheezyWXguy wrote:Have there ever been 2 consecutive seasons with sub-900mb hurricanes?


Sub-900 mbar hurricanes are like legends. They only happen every so often, separated by a decade or not longer.

Having two seasons back to back with these kinds of hurricanes is a first in recorded Atlantic history.


...Or twice in a few months, if you're 2005. Not to diminish back-to-back seasons with sub 900 storms, because it's literally an unprecedented feat (and one, you could argue, that actually more impressive because it requires more than just one really conductive season), but I'm not sure we'll see another season this century where we have multiple sub-900 storms.


True, but having one make landfall is a once in a lifetime event, at least in the Atlantic.
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#2618 Postby NotAHurricane » Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:30 pm

They say it only takes one storm to define the season...
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#2620 Postby Teban54 » Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:32 pm

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