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#21 Postby Mac » Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:39 pm

djtil wrote:she has about a 36 hour window to hit cat 5, after than lower SST to the west of current location makes it extremely unlikely.


Huh? The waters she will be going through are plenty warm enough to sustain cat 5, and the closer she gets to Texas the warmer the waters will be. At least, according to an SST map I saw earlier today. If I'm wrong, somebody please correct me.
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#22 Postby djtil » Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:40 pm

Dallas area would be strongly felt as well. If she hits in the right place,we will see heavy rains and TS force winds


fingers crossed...we need the rain BAD.
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#23 Postby Mac » Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:44 pm

According to this SST map--dated yesterday--temps are around 90 F all the way to the Texas beach:

http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/sst/latest_sst.gif
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#24 Postby canegrl04 » Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:46 pm

fingers crossed...we need th rain BAD




I know.I'm really sick of these July temps and I'm getting very nervous about the ever widening cracks in the ground around my property :eek:
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#25 Postby LAwxrgal » Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:48 pm

The temps in the western gulf are even warmer than the ones in the east gulf where Katrina was. Those waters haven't been touched in years.
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#26 Postby djtil » Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:48 pm

im just going by what ive read in a couple nhc discussions concerning the models tending to peak in the 36-48 hr range due to SSTs.
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#27 Postby djtil » Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:51 pm

Those waters haven't been touched in years.


except for by a couple of winters!! i dont think tropical history over that timeframe has anything to do with current SSTs.

im also almost certain that gulf temps are lower now than during katrina.
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#28 Postby Portastorm » Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:52 pm

Ah man, if he is right .. I'm feeling sick.

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#29 Postby Javlin » Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:54 pm

Mac wrote:
djtil wrote:she has about a 36 hour window to hit cat 5, after than lower SST to the west of current location makes it extremely unlikely.


Huh? The waters she will be going through are plenty warm enough to sustain cat 5, and the closer she gets to Texas the warmer the waters will be. At least, according to an SST map I saw earlier today. If I'm wrong, somebody please correct me.


You are not wrong someone just yesterday display the map based on SST's mb pressure for that area to maitain.Much of the area off the coast of TX was in the 880mb range.Then a thin strip it seemed along the coast it went up in mb's.
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#30 Postby Mac » Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:56 pm

djtil wrote:
Those waters haven't been touched in years.


except for by a couple of winters!! i dont think tropical history over that timeframe has anything to do with current SSTs.

im also almost certain that gulf temps are lower now than during katrina.


They are lower now due to Katrina WHERE UPWELLING OCCURRED. But once Rita gets south of New Orleans, she'll be traversing waters which have not been disturbed. Check out the SST link I posted. It's dated YESTERDAY. Once she gets past directly south of New Orleans, she has 90 degree waters all the way to the beach.
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Very dry air over TX

#31 Postby curtadams » Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:58 pm

I don't recall the models giving a reason for the weakening as Rita approaches the shore. I've heard there will be some shear but have no link. The air over Texas is crispy-crunchy dry, and that is *very* hard on a hurricane. http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/GMEX/WV/20.jpg Lili just choked on the way into LA because of dry air.
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#32 Postby KatDaddy » Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:58 pm

Someone better have more details on Joe saying strongest hurricane ever.
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#33 Postby jkt21787 » Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:59 pm

KatDaddy wrote:Someone better have more details on Joe saying strongest hurricane ever.

This was said on Foxnews so unless there is a way to get the transcript, there can't be any more real confirmation other than from those who saw it.
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#34 Postby jwayne » Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:00 pm

KatDaddy wrote:Someone better have more details on Joe saying strongest hurricane ever.


I just read it on the pro site. He's sticking with his forecast track (basically Freeport) and said that the pressure will be low enough to support cat 5 storm. I'm gonna go throw up.
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#35 Postby BReb » Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:01 pm

From looking at the map of Texas, there is VERY little of significance between Corpus Cristi and Galveston- a very large area. Surprisingly so- it must be the least developed large stretch of coastline in the continental US.

As long as Rita lands in this area, I don't see a whole lot that could be destroyed.
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#36 Postby MGC » Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:01 pm

Cat 5 to Texas this far out is just media hype. Of coures, he could be right but I doubt it. Rita will start entraining all that dry Texas air as she approaches the coast. I'd say Cat 3 at most.......MGC
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Re: Very dry air over TX

#37 Postby Mac » Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:01 pm

curtadams wrote:I don't recall the models giving a reason for the weakening as Rita approaches the shore. I've heard there will be some shear but have no link. The air over Texas is crispy-crunchy dry, and that is *very* hard on a hurricane. http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/GMEX/WV/20.jpg Lili just choked on the way into LA because of dry air.


Ya know, I grew up in Houston (Clear Lake area) and I cannot recall a single day ever that I would have described as "crispy-crunchy dry". LOL Man, the humdity down there is enough to kill you on some days. Especially in the summer. But I do believe that dry air is the one limiting factor in Rita's ability to maintain an extreme intensity at landfall.
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#38 Postby southerngale » Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:02 pm

KatDaddy wrote:Someone better have more details on Joe saying strongest hurricane ever.


Yes sir!! :eek:

That's just what he said....something like: we could be looking at the strongest hurricane on record to hit Texas.
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#39 Postby Portastorm » Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:04 pm

BReb wrote:From looking at the map of Texas, there is VERY little of significance between Corpus Cristi and Galveston- a very large area. Surprisingly so- it must be the least developed large stretch of coastline in the continental US.

As long as Rita lands in this area, I don't see a whole lot that could be destroyed.


Given the width and scope of hurricane force winds projected at landfall, there will be plenty of catastrophic damage. You must remember that a hurricane and its main effects are not limited to the little dot you see on the tracking chart.

If JB is right or even close to right, God help us.
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#40 Postby canegrl04 » Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:05 pm

I'm gonna throw up




Even though I don't live anywhere near the coast,I am starting to get scared for myself as well as those directly in her path. :( I get scared when major heavy duty rain falls.A few years a go, we had an all nighter drenching that resulted in 7 inches :eek:
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