Will Rita get retired???

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Will Rita get retired???

#1 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:05 am

This quastion was asked a few days ago. But since it has made its landfall it needs to be asked...

Will Rita be retired...We will be finding out how much damage or death it has caused through out the day...

Katrina's little sister is likely doing retirement like damage right now...
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#2 Postby Buck » Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:32 am

Sorry, but kinda a dumb question... Although, I supposed its asked of most landfalling hurricanes. :)

No doubt it will be. If they retired Frances and Lily, yes... Rita is definitely going to be retired.

Plus, we haven't even seen damage reports yet! In other threads, people are talking like this is a tropical storm that made landfall... IT WAS A MAJOR HURRICANE WITH A MAJOR SURGE.
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#3 Postby bvigal » Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:18 am

Is this a trick question? Will we be graded? :roflmao:
Matt, when's the last time you had some sleep? :wink: :D
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#4 Postby quandary » Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:24 am

If the damage compared to recent storms is not that excessively, it'll still likely be retired because it was so powerful (897) and because it was so overhyped (who would ever want to hear about Hurricane Rita again?).

Retirement is supposed to come because the storm should be resurrected again in 6 years. No one will want to have another hurricane named Rita because of its meteorological statistics. Plus, almost every Cat 5 Hurricane in history has been retired, Katrina (of course), Ivan, Isabel, Mitch, Hugo, Gilbert, Allen, David...
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#5 Postby jlauderdal » Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:33 am

houston/galveston direct hit the jersey goes up in the ring of honor but they aren't going to retire every cat 3 that hits land. I say no way.
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#6 Postby Cookiely » Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:40 am

I would say yes based on the additional damage and flooding to New Orleans. In addition, we don't have damage estimates for the affected area which I believe will be extensive. I think in peoples minds they will link Katrina and Rita like the evil sisters of some horrible fairytale.
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#7 Postby TexasStooge » Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:44 am

Naahh, she'll probably come back with a vengeance in a few years.
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#8 Postby AussieMark » Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:47 am

quandary wrote:If the damage compared to recent storms is not that excessively, it'll still likely be retired because it was so powerful (897) and because it was so overhyped (who would ever want to hear about Hurricane Rita again?).

Retirement is supposed to come because the storm should be resurrected again in 6 years. No one will want to have another hurricane named Rita because of its meteorological statistics. Plus, almost every Cat 5 Hurricane in history has been retired, Katrina (of course), Ivan, Isabel, Mitch, Hugo, Gilbert, Allen, David...


records have nothing to do with the WMO retiring hurricane names.

its normally if a hurricane is so deadly or so damaging that its name has to be retired to avoid confusion from a future storm.

btw Ethel in 1960 was not retired and she was a category 5. I mean if we had a category 5 fish there is no way it would be retired no matter how strong it got.

A storm is retired purely on its impacts and has nothing to do with some record it may cause. Whether its the strongest cane ever recorded, or strongest cane ever so late in the season or strongest so early in the season. It doesn't matter as those issues don't come into it with retirement of storm names.
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#9 Postby Terrell » Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:42 pm

Cookiely wrote:I would say yes based on the additional damage and flooding to New Orleans. In addition, we don't have damage estimates for the affected area which I believe will be extensive. I think in peoples minds they will link Katrina and Rita like the evil sisters of some horrible fairytale.




I have to agree with you, Katrina probably helps Rita get retired, since together they were a 1-2 punch to NO as well as LA. If Katrina didn't land so close by maybe Rita has to take another go at it to get retired.
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#10 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:20 pm

Rita appears to of caused around the damage of Opheila. We got some surge damage/wind damage reported. But nothing any where close to Katrina. Because Bret was not retired I'm going to say NO!
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#11 Postby ocracoke » Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:24 pm

This is much worse than Ophelia. Parts of SW Louisiana are still experiencing storm surge. Rita will most definitely be retired.
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#12 Postby gpickett00 » Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:25 pm

Ophelia was nothing compared to Rita
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#13 Postby StrongWind » Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:35 pm

Do people who die (bus fire) during an evacuation before the storm count as storm related deaths? (The logic presented in another thread was for deaths that happened days after the storm as long as it was somehow related to there having been a storm.)
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#14 Postby senorpepr » Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:38 pm

StrongWind wrote:Do people who die (bus fire) during an evacuation before the storm count as storm related deaths? (The logic presented in another thread was for deaths that happened days after the storm as long as it was somehow related to there having been a storm.)

No. Those are indirect deaths. Car accidents and heart attacks because of the storm don't count toward the official toll.
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#15 Postby Buck » Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:38 pm

The bus fire deaths are counted as "indirect."
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#16 Postby leonardo » Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:46 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:Rita appears to of caused around the damage of Opheila. We got some surge damage/wind damage reported. But nothing any where close to Katrina. Because Bret was not retired I'm going to say NO!


so...can you tell me what kind of damage Cameron, LA sustained? and making a comparision between a 70 knot storm that never made landfall and a 105 knot storm with 937 pressure that made landfall seems a bit absurd, quite frankly.

point is...it's ALWAYS "not that bad" at first. it just so happens that there aren't any reports from the worst hit areas. that's what happened in Katrina. you had idiots like Shephard Smith saying it wasn't that bad. then the flooding in New Orleans began. and then the media went to Mississippi. I'm not saying that the damge is gonna be Katrina-like. it won't be that bad. however, chances are that Cameron and it's surrounding area has seen a very severe impact. we just don't know yet. Lake Charles looks to have seen a pretty good hit as well.

If Lili got retired, this storm gets retired, no doubt.
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#17 Postby bvigal » Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:48 pm

I've been told the retirement of a name also has to do with confusions on insurance claims which might take years to settle. Does anyone know if that is, indeed, a factor?

If so, with all the possible oil rig, refinery, canal, port, surge damage, plus re-flooding of New Orleans, it would seem Rita would almost have to be retired. or, maybe I've just been watching too much tv! :double::double::double:
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#18 Postby Buck » Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:51 pm

I'm shocked so many people think Rita won't be retired.

Dennis, Emily, Katrina and Rita will all be retired, so far this year.
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#19 Postby HurricaneQueen » Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:01 pm

At first blush I would have to say yes, she will be retired. However, we do not have all the damage assessments in yet but my guess is that the news will only get worse, not better. There are areas in TX under water and she is forecast to sit overland and do some major inland flooding.

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#20 Postby Mac » Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:05 pm

She'll be retired, without a doubt. You don't need any reason other than a low pressure of 897. There's no way that the 3rd most powerful hurricane (by pressure) in Altantic basin history doesn't get retired.
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